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class=062131402-06032008>Hi all,</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
class=062131402-06032008>IIIII hear that horrid sound people are talking about,
and it about sends me out of the room. It reminds me of the sound that
they use to make teens stay away from places...</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
class=062131402-06032008>makes me wonder: is the church alarmed upstairs? it
reminds me of that sound, or are there light dimmers? They ALSO make that
horrid sound...</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
class=062131402-06032008>any what used to be called "haligen?" lights, if dimmed
at all, make that sound; sometimes fluorescent? lights can make it, if the
balasts? are off or the bulbs are beginning to go...</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
class=062131402-06032008>but it's a VERY unpleasant sound.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN class=062131402-06032008>I
think it is not necessarily hearing aids at all but gosh something's
off...</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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class=062131402-06032008></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
class=062131402-06032008>There is sometimes a sound in my house that makes me
nuts and I just turn it all off, unplug everything, wait 30 seconds, then plug
stuff back in and it's better.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
class=062131402-06032008>Good on all those who will work to try to figure this
out...</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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class=062131402-06032008></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
class=062131402-06032008>Blessing to you,</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
class=062131402-06032008>j-m.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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class=062131402-06032008></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
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<FONT face=Tahoma size=2><B>From:</B> access-bounces@uueugene.org
[mailto:access-bounces@uueugene.org] <B>On Behalf Of </B>uuRuth
Ross<BR><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, March 05, 2008 12:06 PM<BR><B>To:</B> Access
Issues and Discussion<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Access] [sound] Hearing aids and
the service<BR></FONT><BR></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>Katherine,
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<DIV>Thank you soooo much for writing this! I was astonished and bewildered by
that announcement. I have inserted other comments in your email below at the
###s (pound signs):</DIV>
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<DIV>On Mar 05, 2008 , at 09:08, Katherine wrote:</DIV><BR
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<DIV>On Sunday, there was an announcement at church for anyone wearing
hearing aids to not have them all the way turned up as they would interfere
with the sound system and cause feedback.</DIV>
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<DIV>I am an Audiologist and I feel concerned about this request, as I don't
believe hearing aids have anything to do with the sound system feeding back.
I have never heard of this before.</DIV></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE>
<DIV><BR class=webkit-block-placeholder></DIV>### I absolutely agree with you.
I HAVE mentioned to ushers in the past that if they hear someone's hearing aid
screeching that they try to locate it and make the wearer aware--but it's
certainly not a feedback problem.</DIV>
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<DIV>### Rachel, who was doing sound second service last Sunday (March 2),
left me a note: "A member asked about a feedback problem [which I could not
hear] that he has noticed before during moments of no noise. I told him to
call you (Ruth) with ideas of how to stop it. It's a very high frequency that
is mostly heard by the young. Some other person confirmed hearing it."</DIV>
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<DIV>I [Ruth] can say that during the first service I also heard a
(high-frequency?) sound, but my experience is that the room often has this
sound. I have heard it when I have been in the room with no equipment plugged
in or turned on, and with no lights or furnace on. I believe it must have
something to do with the shape of the room and perhaps all the hard surfaces.
I have been aware of it's occasional appearance for several years. It goes
away after a few minutes.<BR>
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<DIV>I would like to make a suggestion to assist people in learning to use
their hearing aids with our sound system. I would like to offer to set-up a
table during coffee time after the services on some Sunday and offer to look
at people's hearing aids, assist them in discovering if they have compatible
technology with our sound system, and demonstrate our assistive devices to
them. I can also assess the status of their hearing aids' condition as a
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<DIV><BR class=webkit-block-placeholder></DIV>### This is a generous and
wonderful offer. I hope we can do this! I will help however I can.<BR>
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<DIV>I am interested in the sound system on several levels. I believe I may
be able to help in reducing the feedback that happens in the system without
having to lose so much gain (volume). I have a theory that I'd like to
experiment with a bit, if we can work with Ruth from sound.
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<DIV><BR class=webkit-block-placeholder></DIV>### I'm very interested in
working with you and in hearing your theory. My experience in the past year is
that we don't have "feedback." One exception is the following: I don't
remember exactly when, but on several (maybe two to four) occasions there WAS
feedback--really awful feedback--after the gong (bowl) was struck. At some
point when I was preparing for the sound training I discovered that the
speaker settings on the amplifier had both been turned WAY high. I returned
them to their usual settings and I personally have not heard anything that I
could call "feedback" since then.</DIV>
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<DIV>I repeat, I'm very interested in working with you on this
situation/question/....</DIV>
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<DIV>Ruth</DIV>
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<DIV>copies to: Rachel Cummings, Jake Walsh, Anna Sontag</DIV>
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<DIV>Any input on this?</DIV>
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<DIV>Thanks,</DIV>
<DIV><BR>Katherine Swem</DIV></DIV><BR><BR>
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