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Mary, <br>
I stated in the minutes of our last meeting that <big><big>"<font
style="font-size: 10pt;" size="2"><big><big>the
Shared Values Subcommittee of the Building Project Oversight
Committee <font face="Times New Roman, serif">is closed for the time
being,</font></big></big></font></big></big>" so there is no confusion
in my mind about this and I see no value in discussing it. <br>
<br>
The discussion with me that David refers to was, as he says, "a now and
then thread of discussion." It was not something that could have been
held on the listserv, but rather consisted of intermittent comments
that came up in discussing what content to suggest to the committee
that we put on the website. <br>
<br>
These mostly came up when I did a detailed edit of his lengthiest
survey and chose to sit down with him and discuss my questions and
suggestions. It would have been cumbersome to transmit the editing by
e-mail and would not have been of much interest to those on the
listserv (unless there are more nitpickers than I'm aware of who care
where a question mark is most appropriately placed, etc.). Just want
you to know he and I aren't stacking the deck <smile>.<br>
<br>
One idea I'd like to suggest, possibly for the agenda, is planning for
an interfaith panel on accessibility issues with other churches in the
area for next fall. I'm inspired partly by what SJUUC is doing. I also
hope one or more of us can get up to Portland for the meeting there on
May 2nd that J-M told us about. That might give us a foundation to work
on in planning one for this area. This may be too ambitious an idea but
I thought I'd throw it out there.<br>
<br>
Cindy<br>
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mary otten wrote:
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<pre wrap="">no, i was not saying i think another round of discussion is required at the meeting. i was asking. to be honest, looking at those lists is on my list of things to do. and now that i'm actually able to carry on with normal activities throughout the day without needing to just give it up and sleep, i expect i'll get back to you with some input. the committee jm wanted to be on is not permanently closed. its closed right now, because they are in the middle of a process that they apparently feel would not benefit from somebody new joining at this time. it will open again.
i think maybe the discussion you talked about having with cindy would be interesting if it were to be carried on on this listserv, but of course, that is your prerogative. the matter of asl interpretation is an interesting one. we have 2 professional interpreters that i know of who are members of our congregation. it would be great if we had enough such people so that we could have services and other big deal events interpreted as a matter of course. or it'd be great if we had lots of money and could pay both our members and outside interpreters the going rate for such services.
i personally do not view not understanding english as a disability access issue unless the nonunderstanding is due to a disability. that's not to say its not an issue, just that it isn't ours to deal with imho.
mary
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from: David Gilmartin <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:Rev.D.Gilmartin@comcast.net"><Rev.D.Gilmartin@comcast.net></a>
to: Access Issues and Discussion <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:access@uueugene.org"><access@uueugene.org></a>
date: 2008/02/18 23:32:20
subject: Re: [Access] march meeting
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Mary,
I sent copies of the accessibility surveys to those who requested
them, requesting feedback. To date, I have received suggestions back
only from Cindy. I've been assuming that I would incorporate
suggestions, then send the surveys to Martha for putting up on the
website. Do you feel that another round of discussion/input/editing is
necessary? Do you have some feedback or suggestions you want me to
think about? (I'll incorporate Cindy's suggestions in the next day or
so and send the revised edition around.)
I've no word from anyone on our budget request at this time. But
there's still two weeks before the meeting, so might hear, or could
solicit feedback for the meeting as it gets closer.
Cindy and I have a now and then thread of discussion which has to do
with articulation of the accessibility goal(s) for the church,
something that could go onto our accessibility pages. It's a
discussion about the independent living philosophy, independence,
interdependence... We haven't tried to write anything down yet. An
interesting part of our discussions is about not recognizing invisible
disabilities (e.g., back problems) or invisible accessibility/
communications barriers (e.g., not having sign language
interpretation, not recognizing others may not understand English).
Another: Cindy mentioned that the committee that Jeanne-Marie wanted
to be on, having to do with values and new building, I think, but I
don't remember name of the committee, is a "closed" committee. So may
want to revisit and continue the discussion we've had about this. But
I suggest you talk with Cindy about it to get a good background on the
situation!!
That's what I can think of now.
David
On Feb 18, 2008, at 3:07 PM, mary otten wrote:
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<pre wrap="">hi folks,
its official. we will be in room 2on the 4th of march, and matt will
bring half a dozen adult-sized chairs there for us. i'm looking for
input for the agenda. since we have yet to discuss the accessibility
lists that david offered, we may either do that via e-mail or we
will have to do at the meeting. other topics could include any
update from ken from facilities council as well as from the taboo
night folks and any word on our budget request if anybody's got any
news. other ideas?
maryx
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