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<div>Accessibility and Facilities Friends,</div>
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<div>I received the following request:</div>
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<div><font face="Times New Roman"><i><b>5 December
2007 </b></i></font></div>
<div><font face="Times New Roman"><i><b> Re:
Bathroom, west, main floor</b></i></font></div>
<div><font face="Times New Roman"><i><b> I bought
and gave to the church 2 "grab bars for the west
bathroom. The "grab bars" are installed. I am a
user. With a request. The Newsletter indicates that
changes have been made, and are being made, to the bathrooms, so I
make this request: place the toilet paper holder so that the
paper holder does not restrict the use of the grab bars.
In the present position, the toilet paper holder blocks certain
positions of the arm, in the use of the grab bars. The placement
of the paper holder in its present position can block the arm and
defeat the purpose of the grab bars.</b></i></font></div>
<div><font face="Times New Roman"><i><b> Dirk P. Ten
Brinke</b></i></font></div>
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<div>The restroom in question is not the one with the new
ADA-compliant toilet. In case you don't know, Dirk is an elderly
long-time member of the church, sings in the choir, and uses a
cane/walking stick. I saw no good solution, but I figured the
only possible solution was to move the "toilet paper holder"
(TP holder) about six inches to the left of its present location.
In further communication with Dirk, he objected because</div>
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<div><i><b> the holder should be well forward of the
shoulder; </b></i></div>
<div><i><b>(I don't know anyone with hands coming out of the shoulder,
as the position of many holders seems
to suggest. Lots of toilet paper holders are in a dumb
positions in terms of function.)</b></i></div>
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<div>Then he gave me his proposal: move the "toilet paper holder"
to the right beyond the higher grab bar. I checked this idea out
this morning. I would be able to reach it that far forward, but
it would be a stretch. Would some of you be able to check
whether that change would make things worse for other users?</div>
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<div>Ken</div>
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<div>PS: I don't think this is an urgent item. Dirk
indicated that he had donated the grab bars. When I asked him
who installed them, he responded that he didn't remember but that it
"might have been before your time." Ruth and I started
coming in 1987 and joined in 1989. Nevertheless, I want to give
Dirk's request a fair hearing.</div>
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Ken Ross<br>
ruthken@pacinfo.com<br>
home phone: 541-686-1549<br>
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