From davidgil at comcast.net  Sat Jun  7 17:17:13 2008
From: davidgil at comcast.net (David Gilmartin)
Date: Sat, 7 Jun 2008 15:17:13 -0700
Subject: [Access] childcare request for Wed eve 6/11
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OK. I have contacted Regina Boker and arranged for her to provide  
childcare the evening of our committee meeting, June 11th, from 7:00  
PM to 9:00 PM. Thanks, Steve, for the heads up and reminder of what to  
do!

David G.


On Jun 7, 2008, at 1:50 PM, Steve Landale wrote:

> Accessibility leaders,
>
> I am facing my own accessibility challenge for Wednesday's meeting  
> -- a need for childcare for Toraja, 5.  My fiance, Wendy, will be  
> out of town, as will our nanny.  I believe the procedure now is for  
> you to contact Regina Boker at 686-6688.
>
> thank you!
> Steve
>
> Rev. Stephen A. Landale
> The Unitarian Universalist Church in Eugene
> 477 East 40th Ave.
> Eugene, OR 97405
> 541/686-2775
>
> NEW SCHEDULE BEGINNING MAY 5:
> office hours Tuesday through Thursdays, 9 am to 12 noon.
> study day Monday; day off Friday.
>
> Scripture is everywhere... pay attention.

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From leslie_gilbert at msn.com  Sun Jun  8 17:28:28 2008
From: leslie_gilbert at msn.com (leslie gilbert)
Date: Sun, 8 Jun 2008 15:28:28 -0700
Subject: [Access] Agenda for Wed. 6/11 meeting
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Find attached. Let me know if there should be changes. I just cut and pasted mostly from Cindy's minutes but I think it'll work. 
 
Leslie
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From davidgil at comcast.net  Sun Jun  8 17:41:05 2008
From: davidgil at comcast.net (David Gilmartin)
Date: Sun, 8 Jun 2008 15:41:05 -0700
Subject: [Access] Agenda for Wed. 6/11 meeting
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Looks good to me, Leslie.
David


On Jun 8, 2008, at 3:28 PM, leslie gilbert wrote:

> <Access Comm meeting 6.11.doc>

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From lucindap at comcast.net  Sun Jun  8 18:37:08 2008
From: lucindap at comcast.net (Cindy Pitcairn)
Date: Sun, 08 Jun 2008 16:37:08 -0700
Subject: [Access] Agenda for Wed. 6/11 meeting
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From mariah at efn.org  Sun Jun  8 19:25:47 2008
From: mariah at efn.org (d. maria)
Date: Sun, 8 Jun 2008 17:25:47 -0700
Subject: [Access] Agenda for Wed. 6/11 meeting
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Excellent agenda:  couple questions... did you count how many use 
walkers, canes or similar devices?  I think they should be included and 
they aren't really invisible.  And, while you're listing invisible 
chronic illness', how about RA (that's the reason Jean Weick can no 
longer accompany the choir), and Lupis - or Auto-Immune diseases 
including RA.
       no other suggestions.  thnx for taking this on.  dm

On Jun 8, 2008, at 3:28 PM, leslie gilbert wrote:

>  Find attached. Let me know if there should be changes. I just cut and 
> pasted mostly from Cindy's minutes but?I think it'll work.
>  ?
>  Leslie
>
>
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From ruthken at pacinfo.com  Sun Jun  8 19:31:20 2008
From: ruthken at pacinfo.com (Ken Ross)
Date: Sun, 8 Jun 2008 17:31:20 -0700
Subject: [Access] Agenda for Wed. 6/11 meeting
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At 16:37 -0700 6/8/08, Cindy Pitcairn wrote:
>Leslie,
>
>This looks good. Could we add something about 
>plans for the service on the 29th--maybe a 
>five-minute report from J-M? And maybe a brief 
>report on the game night?
>
>I'd suggest putting the explanatory material for 
>the discussion of future plans as an attachment 
>to the agenda (that is, a separate page).

### As a person who's trying to be green, I like 
the current one-page agenda, though the material 
you refer to could be moved to the bottom of the 
page.  Ken

>
>Also would you like me to format it and send it 
>in the format I've used in the past to Martha 
>for posting on our website? If so, I can also 
>run off copies for the meeting itself.
>
>Cindy
>
>
>
>leslie gilbert wrote:
>
>>.hmmessage P { margin:0px; padding:0px } 
>>body.hmmessage { FONT-SIZE: 10pt; 
>>FONT-FAMILY:Tahoma } Find attached. Let me know 
>>if there should be changes. I just cut and 
>>pasted mostly from Cindy's minutes but I think 
>>it'll work.
>>
>>Leslie
>>
>>
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>>other groups to join you on Windows Live? 
>>Messenger. 
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From lucindap at comcast.net  Sun Jun  8 20:38:48 2008
From: lucindap at comcast.net (Cindy Pitcairn)
Date: Sun, 08 Jun 2008 18:38:48 -0700
Subject: [Access] Agenda for Wed. 6/11 meeting
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From leslie_gilbert at msn.com  Sun Jun  8 20:41:50 2008
From: leslie_gilbert at msn.com (leslie gilbert)
Date: Sun, 8 Jun 2008 18:41:50 -0700
Subject: [Access] Agenda for Wed. 6/11 meeting
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OK-
1) The request to put the discussion points on a separate page is vetoed in an effort to save paper
2)Cindy- what do you mean by 'format'? Go ahead, but if there's something I can do to make it correct from the getgo let me know what that is for next time. And, if you're able to make copies for everyone I'd really appreciate it. 
3) Listing all the different disabilities could be exhaustive, but I will make sure the point is made that there are many other disability types present within the congregation as well, such as autoimmune conditions like RA and lupus, and a number of out congregants use mobility aids like walkers or canes. 
Leslie


Date: Sun, 8 Jun 2008 17:31:20 -0700To: access at uueugene.org; leslie_gilbert at msn.comFrom: ruthken at pacinfo.comSubject: Re: [Access] Agenda for Wed. 6/11 meeting



At 16:37 -0700 6/8/08, Cindy Pitcairn wrote:
Leslie,This looks good. Could we add something about plans for the service on the 29th--maybe a five-minute report from J-M? And maybe a brief report on the game night?I'd suggest putting the explanatory material for the discussion of future plans as an attachment to the agenda (that is, a separate page).

### As a person who's trying to be green, I like the current one-page agenda, though the material you refer to could be moved to the bottom of the page.  Ken

Also would you like me to format it and send it in the format I've used in the past to Martha for posting on our website? If so, I can also run off copies for the meeting itself.Cindyleslie gilbert wrote:
.hmmessage P { margin:0px; padding:0px } body.hmmessage { FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY:Tahoma } Find attached. Let me know if there should be changes. I just cut and pasted mostly from Cindy's minutes but I think it'll work.Leslie



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From lucindap at comcast.net  Sun Jun  8 22:57:13 2008
From: lucindap at comcast.net (Cindy Pitcairn)
Date: Sun, 08 Jun 2008 20:57:13 -0700
Subject: [Access] Agenda for Wed. 6/11 meeting
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From mariah at efn.org  Sun Jun  8 23:03:16 2008
From: mariah at efn.org (d. maria)
Date: Sun, 8 Jun 2008 21:03:16 -0700
Subject: [Access] Agenda for Wed. 6/11 meeting
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see below
On Jun 8, 2008, at 6:41 PM, leslie gilbert wrote:

>  OK-
>  1) The request?to put the discussion points on a separate page is 
> vetoed in an effort to save paper
>  2)Cindy- what do you mean by 'format'? Go ahead, but if there's 
> something I can do to make it correct from the getgo let me know what 
> that is for next time. And, if you're able to make copies for everyone 
> I'd really appreciate it.
>  3) Listing all the different disabilities could be exhaustive, but I 
> will make sure the point is made that there are many other disability 
> types present within the congregation as well, such as autoimmune 
> conditions like RA and lupus, and a number of out congregants use 
> mobility aids like walkers or canes. ***THAT WORKS FOR ME.
>  Leslie
>
>>  Date: Sun, 8 Jun 2008 17:31:20 -0700
>> To: access at uueugene.org; leslie_gilbert at msn.com
>> From: ruthken at pacinfo.com
>> Subject: Re: [Access] Agenda for Wed. 6/11 meeting
>>
>> At 16:37 -0700 6/8/08, Cindy Pitcairn wrote:
>>> Leslie,
>>>
>>> This looks good. Could we add something about plans for the service 
>>> on the 29th--maybe a five-minute report from J-M? And maybe a brief 
>>> report on the game night?
>>>
>>> I'd suggest putting the explanatory material for the discussion of 
>>> future plans as an attachment to the agenda (that is, a separate 
>>> page).
>> ### As a person who's trying to be green, I like the current one-page 
>> agenda, though the material you refer to could be moved to the bottom 
>> of the page.? Ken
>>
>>>
>>> Also would you like me to format it and send it in the format I've 
>>> used in the past to Martha for posting on our website? If so, I can 
>>> also run off copies for the meeting itself.
>>>
>>> Cindy
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> leslie gilbert wrote:
>>>> .hmmessage P { margin:0px; padding:0px } body.hmmessage { 
>>>> FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY:Tahoma } Find attached. Let me know if 
>>>> there should be changes. I just cut and pasted mostly from Cindy's 
>>>> minutes but I think it'll work.
>>>>
>>>> Leslie
>>>> Now you can invite friends from Facebook and other groups to join 
>>>> you on Windows Live? Messenger. Add them now!
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From leslie_gilbert at msn.com  Mon Jun  9 11:38:05 2008
From: leslie_gilbert at msn.com (leslie gilbert)
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Subject: [Access] Agenda for Wed. 6/11 meeting
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Sounds good thanks Cindy. 


Date: Sun, 8 Jun 2008 20:57:13 -0700From: lucindap at comcast.netTo: access at uueugene.orgSubject: Re: [Access] Agenda for Wed. 6/11 meeting
Hi, Leslie,First, before I forget it, UUCE has a policy manual, which is on our website, and below is the excerpt pertaining to committee meetings, which may be helpful if you aren't already familiar with it:"Committee MeetingsMost standing committees meet regularly. A brief notice of committee meetings and events should be placed in the monthly newsletter or listed in Sunday orders of service. Also, it should appear in the weekly email UUpDate. The Office Administrator should be notified if a meeting or event is cancelled.Having an agenda and minutes will help the committee function more effectively and provide a useful tool for communicating with members who were unable to attend the meeting. They also provide history for future committees. Prepare a meeting agenda prior to each committee meeting. Have someone take brief notes including assignments to members, a summary of the discussion and especially any decisions that are made. Place the agenda and the minutes for each meeting in a notebook, to build a reference document for future committee work. Copies of committee minutes should always be given or sent to the Office Administrator and to the Secretary of the Board.It is church policy to have child care available for church meetings. To help members feel connected to the church and to each other, it is recommended that meetings have brief check-ins and also check-outs to discuss how the meeting went. The lighting of a candle or some opening words also help create the atmosphere of a UU community."                                                 --------------------------------------------------------As Mary and I had worked it out, she sent a memo a few days before our monthly meetings, stating what she thought would be on the agenda and asking for any additional items. I would then type it up and send it to Martha to post on the website. I also put it in the committee binder. I'm happy to continue doing this, since, as Corresponding Secretary, it would seem to fall into that category.The format is simply the way I've typed all of the ones so far and it seems reasonable to be consistent.  It's no big deal, but very easy for me to do as it's on my computer.leslie gilbert wrote: 


1) The request to put the discussion points on a separate page is vetoed in an effort to save paperAny objection to putting it on the reverse side of the paper with a note beside the item to indicate it's there?  Agendas are usually just a listing of topics, which is why I wanted to separate the material (even though I did originally write it myself in the minutes ;-) ). I'll also be distributing info on the NOD application at the meeting, which I will print on scrap paper (as I usually do with hand-outs, BTW).  
3) Listing all the different disabilities could be exhaustiveI agree on this. After all this is just for a discussion, and I don't think Rev. Steve needs much convincing that accessibility is an important issue. I think walkers might be mentioned, however.What say I send you an agenda draft tomorrow for approval, so we can get it up on the website?Cindy




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From algaelady at gmail.com  Mon Jun  9 17:04:56 2008
From: algaelady at gmail.com (jeannemarie moore)
Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2008 15:04:56 -0700
Subject: [Access] Agenda for Wed. 6/11 meeting
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Hi there,
 
I think making a list of disabilities is... an unusual thing... why are we
doing this?
 
 
 
 
 


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Subject: Re: [Access] Agenda for Wed. 6/11 meeting


Excellent agenda: couple questions... did you count how many use walkers,
canes or similar devices? I think they should be included and they aren't
really invisible. And, while you're listing invisible chronic illness', how
about RA (that's the reason Jean Weick can no longer accompany the choir),
and Lupis - or Auto-Immune diseases including RA.
no other suggestions. thnx for taking this on. dm

On Jun 8, 2008, at 3:28 PM, leslie gilbert wrote:



Find attached. Let me know if there should be changes. I just cut and pasted
mostly from Cindy's minutes but I think it'll work. 
 
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From lucindap at comcast.net  Mon Jun  9 18:08:21 2008
From: lucindap at comcast.net (Cindy Pitcairn)
Date: Mon, 09 Jun 2008 16:08:21 -0700
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From lucindap at comcast.net  Tue Jun 10 16:19:56 2008
From: lucindap at comcast.net (Cindy Pitcairn)
Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 14:19:56 -0700
Subject: [Access] Agenda for Wednesday evening's meeting
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  UUCE ACCESSIBILITY COMMITTEE MEETING
June 11, 2008, 7 pm
Agenda

Chalice-lighting and Reading (5 min)
Brief check-ins (5 min)
Agenda and Time/Item Adjustments

OLD BUSINESS
Report on Game Night (5 min)

NEW BUSINESS
Plans for June 29th worship service (5 min)

Future Plans - Open Discussion* (40 min)
---- Break (5 min) ----
Future Plans, cont'd. (35 min)

Future Meetings: months, times, and space reservation (15 min)
Likes and Wishes (5 minutes)
________________________________
*Future Plans (Points for discussion)

Seven of our members and friends use wheelchairs, three are blind, 
several use
walkers--that's at least 3% of our congregation with obvious 
accessibility issues. Add in
those who have less obvious, but more common, disabling conditions, such 
as hearing
loss, diabetes, severe arthritis, obesity, and various stages of major 
diseases (cancer,
heart disease, Parkinson's, Alzheimer's) and you have a far greater 
percentage.

Although we have made some progress: architectural modifications, 
childcare provision,
an excellent sound system, and the establishment of this Accessibility 
Committee, there
has been no major thrust against ableism. In fact, many in the 
congregation are only
vaguely, if at all, aware of the concept.

We have several ideas :
? a full- or half-day workshop,
? official affiliation of our church with other churches pursuing 
accessibility (such as
the National Organization on Disability's Accessible Congregations Program),
? outreach to other churches in the area, perhaps a panel discussion on 
the issue of
access,
? clarification that our committee's role in the church structure, and, 
by extension,
that of accessibility, does not fit neatly into one category, such as 
Social Justice,
Facilities Council, Events, or Membership, but is an over-riding concern

From lucindap at comcast.net  Tue Jun 10 17:21:26 2008
From: lucindap at comcast.net (Cindy Pitcairn)
Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 15:21:26 -0700
Subject: [Access] Info on National Organization on Disability
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From algaelady at gmail.com  Tue Jun 10 22:54:44 2008
From: algaelady at gmail.com (jeannemarie moore)
Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 20:54:44 -0700
Subject: [Access] Info on National Organization on Disability
In-Reply-To: <484EFE66.1030204@comcast.net>
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Sounds so cool...  Are you planning to bring this to the meeting, and has
Rev. Steve seen this?
j-m.
 
 


  _____  

From: access-bounces at uueugene.org [mailto:access-bounces at uueugene.org] On
Behalf Of Cindy Pitcairn
Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 3:21 PM
To: Accessibility group; Rev. Steve Landale
Subject: [Access] Info on National Organization on Disability


I'm enclosing some information on NOD's Accessible Congregations Program,
for discussion at tomorrow evening's meeting.  

Unfortunately I'm not able to copy and paste the application form (which is
in PDF format) for you to read, Jeanne-Marie and Mary, but it's a simple
form.  

As of February 2008 NOD had 2,292 congregations that had joined, 25 of which
are UU. Six churches in Oregon have joined, the only one in Eugene being St.
Mary's Episcopal.

 
Cindy



Ten Things You Should Know About the Accessible Congregations Campaign 

 

  

1.	The Accessible Congregations Campaign (ACC) seeks to gain the
commitment of congregations of all faiths to include people with all types
of disabilities as full and active participants. It is sponsored by the
Religion and Disability Program of the National Organization on Disability.



2.	The theme of the Accessible Congregations Campaign is "Access: It
Begins in the Heart."



3.	The campaign seeks to enlist congregations of all faiths and is
based on the scriptural understanding that all people, with and without
disabilities, are created in the image of God.



4.	The campaign seeks to identify and certify the full range of
congregations - from those newly alert to disability issues to those which
are architecturally and programmatically accessible. Our goal is to open
hearts, minds and doors.



5.	An Accessible Congregation acknowledges that it has barriers (both
physical and attitudinal) to the full participation of people with
disabilities and makes a commitment to removing them.



6.	Congregations need not be perfect. They do need to make the
commitment to action.



7.	To join the campaign, a congregation must commit to using the gifts
and talents of people with disabilities in worship, service, study and
leadership. A congregation then completes and returns the Commitment Form
<http://www.nod.org/resources/PDFs/commitment_form06.pdf>  to Rik Opstelten,
Accessible Congregations Campaign at N.O.D., 910 16th Street, NW,
Washington, DC 20006.



8.	Once enrolled, a congregation posts the ACC logo, as above, on its
web site.



9.	Joining the ACC costs nothing. Even the commitment certificate is
free.



10.	The N.O.D. web site lists committed
<http://www.nod.org/ACC/interactive_map.html> congregations by state and by
faith group. 


        
      
        
      


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From maryotten at earthlink.net  Thu Jun 12 11:40:26 2008
From: maryotten at earthlink.net (Mary Otten)
Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 09:40:26 -0700
Subject: [Access] Fwd: [Access-l] From today's NY Times
Message-ID: <E1K6pqg-0006FC-0m@elasmtp-mealy.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

I thought this was worth sharing. Sorry for double posts for those of
you subscribed to more than one list. 

mary


June 12, 2008

Appreciations


A Life of Quality 


By LAWRENCE DOWNES

In "Parting the Waters," his history of the early civil-rights
movement,
Taylor Branch recounts how a teacher of Gandhian resistance, James
Lawson, would tell his students not to curl passively into fetal balls
when segregationists came to beat them up. It only made them more
brutal.

"This was a way to get livers kicked in and backs broken, he said,
recommending that resisters try to maintain eye contact with those
beating them."

I thought of that when I learned of the death of Harriet McBryde
Johnson, who looked at the world with an unflinching, sometimes
withering, gaze. What many saw when they looked at her was a scrawny
woman with a twisted spine who got around with a power wheelchair and
lots of help. What she saw was a world that refused to make room for
the
severely disabled, one that looked at people like her - if it looked at
them at all - with horror, hostility, condescension and pity, a
sentiment she hated.

Ms. Johnson, a lawyer who was 50, died on June 4. She was an eloquent
defender of the rights of the disabled. She came to wide attention
through The New York Times Magazine, in essays she wrote about her
confrontations with the philosopher Peter Singer over his defense of
killing disabled infants at birth. 

Ms. Johnson, an atheist, was unmoved by religious appeals to life's
sanctity. Instead, her rebuttal boiled down to a simple: How dare you?
How dare you decide that certain people with limitations are nonpersons
with no right to exist? How dare you presume to define "quality of
life," for me or anyone else, to set the value of a disabled life lower
than yours, or to conclude that such a life lacks the potential for
happiness and dignity because you cannot imagine how it could?

The disabled certainly suffer. But everyone does, Ms. Johnson argued,
and if the disabled face extra hassles and indignities in life, well,
remedies for those things are all possible, and should be provided.
Instead, the world is run by and for the nondisabled, and those who
don't measure up are infantilized, ignored and stockpiled in
institutions that Ms. Johnson called "the disability gulag." She feared
being sent to it in her later years. 

Ms. Johnson was enraged by injustice, but not susceptible to hatred or
despair. To her, Mr. Singer was a monster, but she realized that the
unenlightened also included many of her own friends, colleagues and
relatives. She decided that "it's not in my heart to deny every single
one of them, categorically, my affection and my love." 

 

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From lucindap at comcast.net  Thu Jun 12 12:23:40 2008
From: lucindap at comcast.net (Cindy Pitcairn)
Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 10:23:40 -0700
Subject: [Access] [UUCE-Chat] Fwd: [Access-l] From today's NY Times
In-Reply-To: <E1K6pqg-0006FC-0m@elasmtp-mealy.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
References: <E1K6pqg-0006FC-0m@elasmtp-mealy.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <48515B9C.9000102@comcast.net>

Mary, Thanks so much for posting this. It surely resonates with me!  
I'll probably be forwarding it to some of my friends and family who 
sometimes let their view of my wheelchair, age, and sex obscure their 
view of the person in me.  Cindy



Mary Otten wrote:
> I thought this was worth sharing. Sorry for double posts for those of
> you subscribed to more than one list. 
>
> mary
>
>
> June 12, 2008
>
> Appreciations
>
>
> A Life of Quality 
>
>
> By LAWRENCE DOWNES
>
> In "Parting the Waters," his history of the early civil-rights
> movement,
> Taylor Branch recounts how a teacher of Gandhian resistance, James
> Lawson, would tell his students not to curl passively into fetal balls
> when segregationists came to beat them up. It only made them more
> brutal.
>
> "This was a way to get livers kicked in and backs broken, he said,
> recommending that resisters try to maintain eye contact with those
> beating them."
>
> I thought of that when I learned of the death of Harriet McBryde
> Johnson, who looked at the world with an unflinching, sometimes
> withering, gaze. What many saw when they looked at her was a scrawny
> woman with a twisted spine who got around with a power wheelchair and
> lots of help. What she saw was a world that refused to make room for
> the
> severely disabled, one that looked at people like her - if it looked at
> them at all - with horror, hostility, condescension and pity, a
> sentiment she hated.
>
> Ms. Johnson, a lawyer who was 50, died on June 4. She was an eloquent
> defender of the rights of the disabled. She came to wide attention
> through The New York Times Magazine, in essays she wrote about her
> confrontations with the philosopher Peter Singer over his defense of
> killing disabled infants at birth. 
>
> Ms. Johnson, an atheist, was unmoved by religious appeals to life's
> sanctity. Instead, her rebuttal boiled down to a simple: How dare you?
> How dare you decide that certain people with limitations are nonpersons
> with no right to exist? How dare you presume to define "quality of
> life," for me or anyone else, to set the value of a disabled life lower
> than yours, or to conclude that such a life lacks the potential for
> happiness and dignity because you cannot imagine how it could?
>
> The disabled certainly suffer. But everyone does, Ms. Johnson argued,
> and if the disabled face extra hassles and indignities in life, well,
> remedies for those things are all possible, and should be provided.
> Instead, the world is run by and for the nondisabled, and those who
> don't measure up are infantilized, ignored and stockpiled in
> institutions that Ms. Johnson called "the disability gulag." She feared
> being sent to it in her later years. 
>
> Ms. Johnson was enraged by injustice, but not susceptible to hatred or
> despair. To her, Mr. Singer was a monster, but she realized that the
> unenlightened also included many of her own friends, colleagues and
> relatives. She decided that "it's not in my heart to deny every single
> one of them, categorically, my affection and my love." 
>   


From mariah at efn.org  Thu Jun 12 15:20:23 2008
From: mariah at efn.org (d. maria)
Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 13:20:23 -0700
Subject: [Access] Fwd: [Access-l] From today's NY Times
In-Reply-To: <E1K6pqg-0006FC-0m@elasmtp-mealy.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
References: <E1K6pqg-0006FC-0m@elasmtp-mealy.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <f144b89152f55a46d42d48d1fec919f6@efn.org>

Thank you, Mary, for such a view and perspective.  Puts me in my place 
and I appreciate that.  (I don't mean it in a bad way.)  What a woman!  
What a human!  dm

On Jun 12, 2008, at 9:40 AM, Mary Otten wrote:

> I thought this was worth sharing. Sorry for double posts for those of
> you subscribed to more than one list.
>
> mary
>
>
> June 12, 2008
>
> Appreciations
>
>
> A Life of Quality
>
>
> By LAWRENCE DOWNES
>
> In "Parting the Waters," his history of the early civil-rights
> movement,
> Taylor Branch recounts how a teacher of Gandhian resistance, James
> Lawson, would tell his students not to curl passively into fetal balls
> when segregationists came to beat them up. It only made them more
> brutal.
>
> "This was a way to get livers kicked in and backs broken, he said,
> recommending that resisters try to maintain eye contact with those
> beating them."
>
> I thought of that when I learned of the death of Harriet McBryde
> Johnson, who looked at the world with an unflinching, sometimes
> withering, gaze. What many saw when they looked at her was a scrawny
> woman with a twisted spine who got around with a power wheelchair and
> lots of help. What she saw was a world that refused to make room for
> the
> severely disabled, one that looked at people like her - if it looked at
> them at all - with horror, hostility, condescension and pity, a
> sentiment she hated.
>
> Ms. Johnson, a lawyer who was 50, died on June 4. She was an eloquent
> defender of the rights of the disabled. She came to wide attention
> through The New York Times Magazine, in essays she wrote about her
> confrontations with the philosopher Peter Singer over his defense of
> killing disabled infants at birth.
>
> Ms. Johnson, an atheist, was unmoved by religious appeals to life's
> sanctity. Instead, her rebuttal boiled down to a simple: How dare you?
> How dare you decide that certain people with limitations are nonpersons
> with no right to exist? How dare you presume to define "quality of
> life," for me or anyone else, to set the value of a disabled life lower
> than yours, or to conclude that such a life lacks the potential for
> happiness and dignity because you cannot imagine how it could?
>
> The disabled certainly suffer. But everyone does, Ms. Johnson argued,
> and if the disabled face extra hassles and indignities in life, well,
> remedies for those things are all possible, and should be provided.
> Instead, the world is run by and for the nondisabled, and those who
> don't measure up are infantilized, ignored and stockpiled in
> institutions that Ms. Johnson called "the disability gulag." She feared
> being sent to it in her later years.
>
> Ms. Johnson was enraged by injustice, but not susceptible to hatred or
> despair. To her, Mr. Singer was a monster, but she realized that the
> unenlightened also included many of her own friends, colleagues and
> relatives. She decided that "it's not in my heart to deny every single
> one of them, categorically, my affection and my love."
>
>
>
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From davidgil at comcast.net  Fri Jun 13 00:50:57 2008
From: davidgil at comcast.net (David Gilmartin)
Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 22:50:57 -0700
Subject: [Access] 26 Suggested Do's and Don't in Crafting and Leading Worship
Message-ID: <5467EFBC-4D76-4E36-BE44-8F3E6B8540DA@comcast.net>

Here's a digital version of this excellent list. I also have it  
available as a Word document, and could also convert it to a .pdf  
file, if anyone wants it in those formats.

David G.



Twenty-Six Suggested Do?s and Don?ts

In Crafting and Leading Worship



DON?T begin: ?As I was pondering what to say . . .? Just say it.  
Exception: where the pondering is an integral part of your story.

DON?T run to the dictionary for a definition. It?s become a clich?.  
Etymologies are fine. But ?Webster?s tells us . . .? is a bore.

DON?T apologize. You?re a child of God, or the universe. There is  
nothing to apologize for.

DO take care of your congregation. They are really yours; they have  
placed themselves in your care for an hour. Some are hurting. Some are  
angry. Some need sympathy, others to be challenged, others just to  
laugh, or cry. Try to make worship a safe place for them all.

DO run your creations by others, a few days in advance. Listen. Probe  
(softly) for reactions. Accept. With joy in your heart, steal!

DO over-practice. DON?T try to wing it until you?ve been doing this  
every week for, say, ten years. Maybe not even then.

DON?T draw attention to yourself. The message counts, not the messenger.

DO, however, share something of yourself in worship. If you can, try  
to say something that costs you something to say.

DO take risks, provided you can do so worshipfully. Dare. Have faith  
that things will work out. If you don?t have faith during worship, why  
are you up there?

DO be brief. Each time you open your mouth to speak, 100 or 200 others  
must keep theirs shut. (They are not, however, required to listen.)  
Leave them asking for more, not wishing for less.

DO pray or meditate beforehand, if that is your inclination. You need  
all the help you can get.

DO remember what you are there for, and what you are doing in the  
chancel. The call to worship, for example, first and foremost calls  
the faithful to worship. For a reality check on your brevity, clarity,  
and eloquence of your call to worship, compare it with that of the  
bell in the belfry.

DON?T feel it?s necessary to reinvent the wheel. Originality in  
worship is no special virtue. Familiar language, like an old shoe,  
soothes and reassures.

DON?T assume everyone knows what you are talking about. Practice the  
art of tactful introductions: ?Some of you may know . . .? Invite the  
whole congregation under the tent.

DON?T put anybody down, including yourself. The God, if there is a  
God, who loves you, if He loves you, if He is a he, might be offended.

DO respond to whatever truly unusual happens during worship. If a  
person in a wheelchair enters through the side entrance in mid- 
service, there is no need to pay special attention. If the goat with  
that person wanders into the chancel and starts eating the flowers,  
you have no choice but to pay attention. Appropriately acknowledge the  
intrusion, and move on. (DON?T try to improvise a ritual sacrifice. It  
might be OK to make a joke about the goat. Just don?t ignore it.  
Worship is not about pretending the world is other than the way it is.  
Good worship faces facts.)

DO relate all past and future, all anecdotes and tales and schemes and  
visions to the present, right here, right now. Let worship make a  
practical difference among your congregants: let it influence some  
choice they make, some real part of their lives. Otherwise, why bother?

DON?T overexplain or reflect on the service: avoid excessive ?What  
we?ll do now is . . .? Worship is creation, not commentary, it?s  
action rather than criticism. Just do it!

DON?T reintroduce that which the order of service has already fully  
introduced. The order of service is carefully put together, and exists  
for a reason. Let it do its job.

DO know why you are doing each thing in the service that you are doing.

DO NOT, however, always yield to the urge to explain why you are doing  
it, unless explaining strengthens the point. And DO NOT yield to the  
temptation to explain why you chose to do it in this way rather than  
some other way. The world doesn?t care about the birth pains, all it  
wants to see is the baby.

DO accept that in most worship services many small things are bound to  
go wrong, and yet at the same time, mysteriously, nothing whatsoever  
will go wrong. Whatever you do with a worshipful attitude will work  
out fine.

DO invite, encourage, suggest ways in which the congregation can  
participate in worship. Example: suggesting a particular way to sing a  
hymn. ?Suppose we try the first verse softly and the last verse with  
gusto.? A useful word: ?Let?s?.]

DON?T, however, compel or require one exclusive way of participating.  
Respect the tenderness and privacy of each congregant?s individual way  
of worshipping. Gently coach, but try not to cheerlead.

DO consider multiple invitations. The center can be approached from  
the North, East, South, and West, not to mention outer space and the  
core of the earth. For example: ?This hymn is new for us and may be  
hard. If you like, just savor the words to yourself, or listen along  
for a verse or two before you join in with us.? Second example:  
following the embracing meditation, ?For the names which have been  
spoken, and for those that remain in the silent sanctuary of our  
heart . . .? Third example: the Water Communion service where some are  
fishes in the stream of life, some are frogs, others reeds, still  
others currents ? ?and if you don?t care to stand up, feel free to be  
a rock [relieved laughter].? All may be worthy, but all still need to  
be made to feel welcome. In the service, as you worship, gather your  
flock.

DO take pains. Attention to details equals love.
















Assembled by Rick Koyle, from many sources including:
Mark Belletini
Janne Eller-Isaacs
Rob Eller-Isaacs
Judith Hunt
Heather MacLeod
Rebecca Parker
Maud Steyaert
The class in Worship at Starr King, Spring ?93, and
Worship Associates and Summer Worship Participants past and present

Prepared for distribution at
The Worship Retreat
First Unitarian Church of Oakland (Unitarian Universalist),
June 10-11, 1994
  
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From leslie_gilbert at msn.com  Fri Jun 13 01:46:51 2008
From: leslie_gilbert at msn.com (leslie gilbert)
Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 23:46:51 -0700
Subject: [Access] 26 Suggested Do's and Don't in Crafting and Leading
 Worship
In-Reply-To: <5467EFBC-4D76-4E36-BE44-8F3E6B8540DA@comcast.net>
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Message-ID: <BAY126-W28604B18CC3DA4221F25CDE3AC0@phx.gbl>


Thanks for taking the time to do this, David. 
 
Leslie


From: davidgil at comcast.netTo: access at uueugene.org; slandale at yahoo.comDate: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 22:50:57 -0700Subject: [Access] 26 Suggested Do's and Don't in Crafting and Leading WorshipHere's a digital version of this excellent list. I also have it available as a Word document, and could also convert it to a .pdf file, if anyone wants it in those formats. 

David G.




Twenty-Six Suggested Do?s and Don?ts
In Crafting and Leading Worship
 
 
DON?T begin: ?As I was pondering what to say . . .? Just say it. Exception: where the pondering is an integral part of your story.
 
DON?T run to the dictionary for a definition. It?s become a clich?. Etymologies are fine. But ?Webster?s tells us . . .? is a bore.
 
DON?T apologize. You?re a child of God, or the universe. There is nothing to apologize for.
 
DO take care of your congregation. They are really yours; they have placed themselves in your care for an hour. Some are hurting. Some are angry. Some need sympathy, others to be challenged, others just to laugh, or cry. Try to make worship a safe place for them all.
 
DO run your creations by others, a few days in advance. Listen. Probe (softly) for reactions. Accept. With joy in your heart, steal!
 
DO over-practice. DON?T try to wing it until you?ve been doing this every week for, say, ten years. Maybe not even then.
 
DON?T draw attention to yourself. The message counts, not the messenger.
 
DO, however, share something of yourself in worship. If you can, try to say something that costs you something to say.
 
DO take risks, provided you can do so worshipfully. Dare. Have faith that things will work out. If you don?t have faith during worship, why are you up there?
 
DO be brief. Each time you open your mouth to speak, 100 or 200 others must keep theirs shut. (They are not, however, required to listen.) Leave them asking for more, not wishing for less.
 
DO pray or meditate beforehand, if that is your inclination. You need all the help you can get.
 
DO remember what you are there for, and what you are doing in the chancel. The call to worship, for example, first and foremost calls the faithful to worship. For a reality check on your brevity, clarity, and eloquence of your call to worship, compare it with that of the bell in the belfry.
 
DON?T feel it?s necessary to reinvent the wheel. Originality in worship is no special virtue. Familiar language, like an old shoe, soothes and reassures.
 
DON?T assume everyone knows what you are talking about. Practice the art of tactful introductions: ?Some of you may know . . .? Invite the whole congregation under the tent.
 
DON?T put anybody down, including yourself. The God, if there is a God, who loves you, if He loves you, if He is a he, might be offended.
 
DO respond to whatever truly unusual happens during worship. If a person in a wheelchair enters through the side entrance in mid-service, there is no need to pay special attention. If the goat with that person wanders into the chancel and starts eating the flowers, you have no choice but to pay attention. Appropriately acknowledge the intrusion, and move on. (DON?T try to improvise a ritual sacrifice. It might be OK to make a joke about the goat. Just don?t ignore it. Worship is not about pretending the world is other than the way it is. Good worship faces facts.)
 
DO relate all past and future, all anecdotes and tales and schemes and visions to the present, right here, right now. Let worship make a practical difference among your congregants: let it influence some choice they make, some real part of their lives. Otherwise, why bother?
 
DON?T overexplain or reflect on the service: avoid excessive ?What we?ll do now is . . .? Worship is creation, not commentary, it?s action rather than criticism. Just do it!
 
DON?T reintroduce that which the order of service has already fully introduced. The order of service is carefully put together, and exists for a reason. Let it do its job.
 
DO know why you are doing each thing in the service that you are doing.
 
DO NOT, however, always yield to the urge to explain why you are doing it, unless explaining strengthens the point. And DO NOT yield to the temptation to explain why you chose to do it in this way rather than some other way. The world doesn?t care about the birth pains, all it wants to see is the baby.
 
DO accept that in most worship services many small things are bound to go wrong, and yet at the same time, mysteriously, nothing whatsoever will go wrong. Whatever you do with a worshipful attitude will work out fine.
 
DO invite, encourage, suggest ways in which the congregation can participate in worship. Example: suggesting a particular way to sing a hymn. ?Suppose we try the first verse softly and the last verse with gusto.? A useful word: ?Let?s?.]
 
DON?T, however, compel or require one exclusive way of participating. Respect the tenderness and privacy of each congregant?s individual way of worshipping. Gently coach, but try not to cheerlead.
 
DO consider multiple invitations. The center can be approached from the North, East, South, and West, not to mention outer space and the core of the earth. For example: ?This hymn is new for us and may be hard. If you like, just savor the words to yourself, or listen along for a verse or two before you join in with us.? Second example: following the embracing meditation, ?For the names which have been spoken, and for those that remain in the silent sanctuary of our heart . . .? Third example: the Water Communion service where some are fishes in the stream of life, some are frogs, others reeds, still others currents ? ?and if you don?t care to stand up, feel free to be a rock [relieved laughter].? All may be worthy, but all still need to be made to feel welcome. In the service, as you worship, gather your flock.
 
DO take pains. Attention to details equals love.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Assembled by Rick Koyle, from many sources including:
Mark Belletini
Janne Eller-Isaacs
Rob Eller-Isaacs
Judith Hunt
Heather MacLeod
Rebecca Parker
Maud Steyaert
The class in Worship at Starr King, Spring ?93, and
Worship Associates and Summer Worship Participants past and present
 
Prepared for distribution at
The Worship Retreat
First Unitarian Church of Oakland (Unitarian Universalist),
June 10-11, 1994
 
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From lucindap at comcast.net  Fri Jun 13 15:23:25 2008
From: lucindap at comcast.net (Cindy Pitcairn)
Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 13:23:25 -0700
Subject: [Access] 26 Suggested Do's and Don't in Crafting and Leading
 Worship
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David,
What a good idea! Maybe you could copy Rev. Steve on your message so he 
would know it's available digitally??

Cindy

David Gilmartin wrote:
> Here's a digital version of this excellent list. I also have it 
> available as a Word document, and could also convert it to a .pdf 
> file, if anyone wants it in those formats.
>
> David G.
>


From davidgil at comcast.net  Fri Jun 13 16:39:14 2008
From: davidgil at comcast.net (David Gilmartin)
Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 14:39:14 -0700
Subject: [Access] 26 Suggested Do's and Don't in Crafting and Leading
	Worship
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I did.
DG


And if you have not already done so, change my email address in your  
phonebook to: davidgil at comcast.net

David Gilmartin

On Jun 13, 2008, at 1:23 PM, Cindy Pitcairn wrote:

> David,
> What a good idea! Maybe you could copy Rev. Steve on your message so  
> he
> would know it's available digitally??
>
> Cindy
>
> David Gilmartin wrote:
>> Here's a digital version of this excellent list. I also have it
>> available as a Word document, and could also convert it to a .pdf
>> file, if anyone wants it in those formats.
>>
>> David G.
>>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Access mailing list
> Access at uueugene.org
> http://www.uueugene.org
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From mariah at efn.org  Fri Jun 13 16:55:51 2008
From: mariah at efn.org (d. maria)
Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 14:55:51 -0700
Subject: [Access] 26 Suggested Do's and Don't in Crafting and Leading
	Worship
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FYI:  Several things sounded very familiar... I think Steve used it 
when he did the Worship Associate training last fall.  excellent read.  
thnx david... blessings, maria
On Jun 13, 2008, at 2:39 PM, David Gilmartin wrote:

> I did.
> DG
>
>
> And if you have not already done so, change my email address in your
> phonebook to: davidgil at comcast.net
>
> David Gilmartin
>
> On Jun 13, 2008, at 1:23 PM, Cindy Pitcairn wrote:
>
>> David,
>> What a good idea! Maybe you could copy Rev. Steve on your message so
>> he
>> would know it's available digitally??
>>
>> Cindy
>>
>> David Gilmartin wrote:
>>> Here's a digital version of this excellent list. I also have it
>>> available as a Word document, and could also convert it to a .pdf
>>> file, if anyone wants it in those formats.
>>>
>>> David G.
>>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Access mailing list
>> Access at uueugene.org
>> http://www.uueugene.org
>> http://www.uueugene.org/mailman/listinfo/access
>
> _______________________________________________
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From davidgil at comcast.net  Fri Jun 13 17:00:47 2008
From: davidgil at comcast.net (David Gilmartin)
Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 15:00:47 -0700
Subject: [Access] 26 Suggested Do's and Don't in Crafting and Leading
	Worship
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maria,
That makes a lot of sense. It's a good resource.

David Gilmartin

On Jun 13, 2008, at 2:55 PM, d. maria wrote:

> FYI:  Several things sounded very familiar... I think Steve used it
> when he did the Worship Associate training last fall.  excellent read.
> thnx david... blessings, maria

From lucindap at comcast.net  Fri Jun 13 17:48:29 2008
From: lucindap at comcast.net (Cindy Pitcairn)
Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 15:48:29 -0700
Subject: [Access] 26 Suggested Do's and Don't in Crafting and Leading
 Worship
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David Gilmartin wrote:
> I did.
> DG
>   
OOPS1 So you did--I guess I didn't have my eyes open this morning.

I watched a DVD, "The Illusionist", last evening--I think you may have 
recommended it, along with another friend.  Anyhow I thoroughly enjoyed 
it. 

Got my w/c back from CARE Medical today--not completely fixed, as they 
need to order a new actuator, but usable. 

I forgot about the Toxic Times Wednesday; if you're coming to church 
Sunday, could you bring them then? 

Thanks,  Cindy

From lucindap at comcast.net  Fri Jun 13 19:26:44 2008
From: lucindap at comcast.net (Cindy Pitcairn)
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From davidgil at comcast.net  Mon Jun 16 17:05:42 2008
From: davidgil at comcast.net (David Gilmartin)
Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2008 15:05:42 -0700
Subject: [Access] Fwd: Accessible Congregations Campaign
References: <4FCC3F5D24613449ACFFD2CDA770E1DA2BF78A@nod-srv-01.ad.nod.org>
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And if you have not already done so, change my email address in your  
phonebook to: davidgil at comcast.net

David Gilmartin

Begin forwarded message:

> From: "Ginny Thornburgh" <thornburghg at nod.org>
> Date: June 16, 2008 11:08:10 AM PDT
> To: <davidgil at comcast.net>
> Cc: "Hendrik N. Opstelten" <opsteltenh at nod.org>
> Subject: Accessible Congregations Campaign
>
> Dear David:
>
> Thank you for your email and your interest in the Accessible  
> Congregations Campaign. I was delighted to learn that you already  
> have an Accessibility Committee. I assume you have taken advantage  
> of the information on our website at www.nod.org/religion
>
> From other UU congregations, we have learned that the wording on the  
> commitment form is theologically troubling to some members. Our  
> challenge in 1998 was to frame wording that would affirm the  
> greatest number of people and congregations possible. A lofty but  
> impossible goal.
>
> Your proposed alternative rendering captures the spirit of the  
> commitment. The only problem is that the certificate we will send  
> you is preprinted (other than your name, signatures and date.) Thus  
> it would not reflect the wording which you suggest.
>
> We respect your tradition and are truly sorry that the ACC wording  
> is not more affirming for you.
>
> With thanks. Ginny

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From leslie_gilbert at msn.com  Mon Jun 16 18:51:34 2008
From: leslie_gilbert at msn.com (leslie gilbert)
Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2008 16:51:34 -0700
Subject: [Access] Fwd: Accessible Congregations Campaign
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Hmm looks like we have a decision to make- participate despite the verbage, or not participate because of it.. 


From: davidgil at comcast.netTo: access at uueugene.org; slandale at yahoo.comDate: Mon, 16 Jun 2008 15:05:42 -0700Subject: [Access] Fwd: Accessible Congregations Campaign


And if you have not already done so, change my email address in your phonebook to: davidgil at comcast.net

David Gilmartin

Begin forwarded message:


From: "Ginny Thornburgh" <thornburghg at nod.org>
Date: June 16, 2008 11:08:10 AM PDT
To: <davidgil at comcast.net>
Cc: "Hendrik N. Opstelten" <opsteltenh at nod.org>
Subject: Accessible Congregations Campaign




Dear David:
 
Thank you for your email and your interest in the Accessible Congregations Campaign. I was delighted to learn that you already have an Accessibility Committee. I assume you have taken advantage of the information on our website at www.nod.org/religion 
 
>From other UU congregations, we have learned that the wording on the commitment form is theologically troubling to some members. Our challenge in 1998 was to frame wording that would affirm the greatest number of people and congregations possible. A lofty but impossible goal.
 
Your proposed alternative rendering captures the spirit of the commitment. The only problem is that the certificate we will send you is preprinted (other than your name, signatures and date.) Thus it would not reflect the wording which you suggest.
 
We respect your tradition and are truly sorry that the ACC wording is not more affirming for you.
 
With thanks. Ginny
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From maryotten at earthlink.net  Mon Jun 16 18:56:42 2008
From: maryotten at earthlink.net (Mary Otten)
Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2008 16:56:42 -0700
Subject: [Access] Fwd: Accessible Congregations Campaign
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Well, it was my impression from the last meeting, for which I still
haven't sent you all the minutes, that the rev was on board even if the
wording couldn't be changed. I had the idea that the rest of us were as
well, but I could be wrong about that. 

mary


From lucindap at comcast.net  Mon Jun 16 23:25:15 2008
From: lucindap at comcast.net (Cindy Pitcairn)
Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2008 21:25:15 -0700
Subject: [Access] Fwd: Accessible Congregations Campaign
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Mary Otten wrote:
> Well, it was my impression from the last meeting, for which I still
> haven't sent you all the minutes, that the rev was on board even if the
> wording couldn't be changed. I had the idea that the rest of us were as
> well, but I could be wrong about that. 
>
> mary
>   
Sounds good to me. If we all agree, I guess the next step would be to 
take it to the board.  Cindy

From mariah at efn.org  Tue Jun 17 00:41:53 2008
From: mariah at efn.org (d. maria)
Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2008 22:41:53 -0700
Subject: [Access] Fwd: Accessible Congregations Campaign
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I can live with the wording & felt Steve was favorable... Should the 
new Chair take it to the board with support from Mary as past chair?  
Or, can Mary offer it up as a board member.  I'm inclined toward the 
former rather than the latter.  What say you???  Just read the 
tentative time-line for the centennial celebration, it must be 
influencing my verbage.  sorry, dm

On Jun 16, 2008, at 9:25 PM, Cindy Pitcairn wrote:

> Mary Otten wrote:
>> Well, it was my impression from the last meeting, for which I still
>> haven't sent you all the minutes, that the rev was on board even if 
>> the
>> wording couldn't be changed. I had the idea that the rest of us were 
>> as
>> well, but I could be wrong about that.
>>
>> mary
>>
> Sounds good to me. If we all agree, I guess the next step would be to
> take it to the board.  Cindy
> _______________________________________________
> Access mailing list
> Access at uueugene.org
> http://www.uueugene.org
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From davidgil at comcast.net  Tue Jun 17 04:39:58 2008
From: davidgil at comcast.net (David Gilmartin)
Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2008 02:39:58 -0700
Subject: [Access] Fwd: Accessible Congregations Campaign
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Mary,

My recollection, also, is that Steve supported becoming certified as  
an accessible congregation.

Regarding the wording, he said something about how we could or should  
"translate" the phrase we are concerned about into terminology which  
is within our traditions and acceptable to us. I did that in my letter  
to Ginny, at N.O.D., included below.

David

On Jun 16, 2008, at 4:56 PM, Mary Otten wrote:

> Well, it was my impression from the last meeting, for which I still
> haven't sent you all the minutes, that the rev was on board even if  
> the
> wording couldn't be changed. I had the idea that the rest of us were  
> as
> well, but I could be wrong about that.
>
> mary

Dear Ms. Ginny Thornburgh,

I am writing on behalf of the Accessibility Committee of the Unitarian  
Universalist Church in Eugene (Oregon) to inquire about the Accessible  
Congregations Campaign.

The committee has had several discussions on this subject, and has the  
following concern:

The Commitment Form states, as one of the principles being committed  
to, "In our congregation, people with disabilities are valued as  
individuals, having been created in the image of God."

Unitarian Universalists hold a variety of beliefs about God, and some  
of our members, we think, would likely object to this phraseology.

An alternate rendering more likely to gain acceptance by Unitarian  
Universalists might draw from the principles of member congregations  
of the Unitarian Universalist Association and read something like this:

"In our congregation, which covenants to affirm and promote the  
inherent worth and dignity of every person, people with disabilities  
are valued as individuals."

If our commitment to this principle is stated in this or a similar  
way, on our Commitment Form, the Accessibility Committee wishes to  
know if this would present any difficulties to our congregation's  
acceptance as an accessible congregation.

I look forward to receiving your response to this question.


Sincerely,

David Gilmartin


From leslie_gilbert at msn.com  Tue Jun 17 12:55:04 2008
From: leslie_gilbert at msn.com (leslie gilbert)
Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2008 10:55:04 -0700
Subject: [Access] Fwd: Accessible Congregations Campaign
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SO how do I do that?
Leslie "The Chair" Gilbert ;-)> Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2008 21:25:15 -0700> From: lucindap at comcast.net> To: access at uueugene.org> Subject: Re: [Access] Fwd: Accessible Congregations Campaign> > Mary Otten wrote:> > Well, it was my impression from the last meeting, for which I still> > haven't sent you all the minutes, that the rev was on board even if the> > wording couldn't be changed. I had the idea that the rest of us were as> > well, but I could be wrong about that. > >> > mary> > > Sounds good to me. If we all agree, I guess the next step would be to > take it to the board. Cindy> _______________________________________________> Access mailing list> Access at uueugene.org> http://www.uueugene.org> http://www.uueugene.org/mailman/listinfo/access
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From mariah at efn.org  Tue Jun 17 13:48:52 2008
From: mariah at efn.org (d. maria)
Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2008 11:48:52 -0700
Subject: [Access] Fwd: Accessible Congregations Campaign
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You send an email to Elliot McIntire (who is vice-pres) asking for time 
on the agenda and tell him why.  He will get back to you, and may want 
you to come to the Executive Committee first.  (a week earlier) It 
would be good to give the EC a copy of our material from the Accessible 
Congregations Campaign before their meeting.  That can be done by snail 
mail directly to the church attention, EC. dm

On Jun 17, 2008, at 10:55 AM, leslie gilbert wrote:

>  SO how do?I do that?
>  Leslie "The Chair" Gilbert ;-)
>
> > Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2008 21:25:15 -0700
> > From: lucindap at comcast.net
> > To: access at uueugene.org
> > Subject: Re: [Access] Fwd: Accessible Congregations Campaign
> >
> > Mary Otten wrote:
> > > Well, it was my impression from the last meeting, for which I still
> > > haven't sent you all the minutes, that the rev was on board even 
> if the
> > > wording couldn't be changed. I had the idea that the rest of us 
> were as
> > > well, but I could be wrong about that.
> > >
> > > mary
> > >
> > Sounds good to me. If we all agree, I guess the next step would be to
> > take it to the board. Cindy
> > _______________________________________________
> > Access mailing list
> > Access at uueugene.org
> > http://www.uueugene.org
> > http://www.uueugene.org/mailman/listinfo/access
>
>
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From ruthken at pacinfo.com  Tue Jun 17 14:11:46 2008
From: ruthken at pacinfo.com (Ken Ross)
Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2008 12:11:46 -0700
Subject: [Access] Fwd: Accessible Congregations Campaign
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Unless things have changed big time since I was board secretary, 
start by writing to the secretary, Suzanne Whaley, with copy to the 
president, Sarah Hendrickson, asking to be put on the next board 
agenda --- they probably next meet on July 10.  For maximum 
efficiency, and to help Suzanne, write the proposed agenda item along 
these lines

Accessible Congregation.  Explain here in a sentence or two the board 
action recommended.  Then add a few sentences of why this is 
important to our church (greater awareness, more visibility outside 
our congregation, whatever).  You've got time to run a draft by us.

Ken

>SO how do I do that?
>Leslie "The Chair" Gilbert ;-)
>
>>  Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2008 21:25:15 -0700
>>  From: lucindap at comcast.net
>>  To: access at uueugene.org
>>  Subject: Re: [Access] Fwd: Accessible Congregations Campaign
>>
>>  Mary Otten wrote:
>>  > Well, it was my impression from the last meeting, for which I still
>>  > haven't sent you all the minutes, that the rev was on board even if the
>>  > wording couldn't be changed. I had the idea that the rest of us were as
>>  > well, but I could be wrong about that.
>>  >
>>  > mary
>>  >
>>  Sounds good to me. If we all agree, I guess the next step would be to
>>  take it to the board. Cindy
>>  _______________________________________________
>>  Access mailing list
>>  Access at uueugene.org
>>  http://www.uueugene.org
>>  http://www.uueugene.org/mailman/listinfo/access
>
>
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From mariah at efn.org  Tue Jun 17 15:29:28 2008
From: mariah at efn.org (d. maria)
Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2008 13:29:28 -0700
Subject: [Access] Fwd: Accessible Congregations Campaign
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Sorry, Ken, thought that was the Veep.  My apologees to Suzanne as 
well.  thnx for clarifying.  dm
On Jun 17, 2008, at 12:11 PM, Ken Ross wrote:

> Unless things have changed big time since I was board secretary, start 
> by writing to the secretary, Suzanne Whaley, with copy to the 
> president, Sarah Hendrickson, asking to be put on the next board 
> agenda --- they probably next meet on July 10.? For maximum 
> efficiency, and to help Suzanne, write the proposed agenda item along 
> these lines
>
> Accessible Congregation.? Explain here in a sentence or two the board 
> action recommended.? Then add a few sentences of why this is important 
> to our church (greater awareness, more visibility outside our 
> congregation, whatever).? You've got time to run a draft by us.
>
> Ken
>
>> SO how do?I do that?
>>  Leslie "The Chair" Gilbert ;-)
>>
>>  > Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2008 21:25:15 -0700
>>  > From: lucindap at comcast.net
>>  > To: access at uueugene.org
>>  > Subject: Re: [Access] Fwd: Accessible Congregations Campaign
>>  >
>>  > Mary Otten wrote:
>>  > > Well, it was my impression from the last meeting, for which I 
>> still
>>  > > haven't sent you all the minutes, that the rev was on board even 
>> if the
>>  > > wording couldn't be changed. I had the idea that the rest of us 
>> were as
>>  > > well, but I could be wrong about that.
>>  > >
>>  > > mary
>>  > >
>>  > Sounds good to me. If we all agree, I guess the next step would be 
>> to
>>  > take it to the board. Cindy
>>  > _______________________________________________
>>  > Access mailing list
>>  > Access at uueugene.org
>>  > http://www.uueugene.org
>>  > http://www.uueugene.org/mailman/listinfo/access
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>> Try it Now
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>
> -- 
>
>
> ****************************************************
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>  ruthken at pacinfo.com
>  home phone:? 541-686-1549
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From davidgil at comcast.net  Tue Jun 17 21:07:42 2008
From: davidgil at comcast.net (David Gilmartin)
Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2008 19:07:42 -0700
Subject: [Access] Fwd: Accessible Congregations Campaign - Letter From
	Thornburgh
References: <8BA7D2B7-3677-4593-92B2-4011E60BD4E1@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <8C349967-25E7-483A-8AD6-FE1F1BA1A531@comcast.net>

I may be sending this out a second time; I'm not sure. In any case, it  
is important that the committee members see it, to get a sense of  
NOD's response to my letter.

David G.


Begin forwarded message:

> From: David Gilmartin <davidgil at comcast.net>
> Date: June 14, 2008 12:38:23 AM PDT
> To: Thornburgh Ginny <religion at nod.org>
> Subject: Accessible Congregations Campaign
>
> Dear Ms. Ginny Thornburgh,
>
>
> I am writing on behalf of the Accessibility Committee of the  
> Unitarian Universalist Church in Eugene (Oregon) to inquire about  
> the Accessible Congregations Campaign.
>
> The committee has had several discussions on this subject, and has  
> the following concern:
>
> The Commitment Form states, as one of the principles being committed  
> to, "In our congregation, people with disabilities are valued as  
> individuals, having been created in the image of God."
>
> Unitarian Universalists hold a variety of beliefs about God, and  
> some of our members, we think, would likely object to this  
> phraseology.
>
> An alternate rendering more likely to gain acceptance by Unitarian  
> Universalists might draw from the principles of member congregations  
> of the Unitarian Universalist Association and read something like  
> this:
>
> "In our congregation, which covenants to affirm and promote the  
> inherent worth and dignity of every person, people with disabilities  
> are valued as individuals."
>
> If our commitment to this principle is stated in this or a similar  
> way, on our Commitment Form, the Accessibility Committee wishes to  
> know if this would present any difficulties to our congregation's  
> acceptance as an accessible congregation.
>
> I look forward to receiving your response to this question.
>
>
> Sincerely,
>
>
> David Gilmartin
>

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From lucindap at comcast.net  Thu Jun 19 22:50:58 2008
From: lucindap at comcast.net (Cindy Pitcairn)
Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2008 20:50:58 -0700
Subject: [Access] Items for newsletter and UUpDate
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From mariah at efn.org  Sat Jun 28 14:25:06 2008
From: mariah at efn.org (d. maria)
Date: Sat, 28 Jun 2008 12:25:06 -0700
Subject: [Access] Fwd: [UUCE-Share] LAMP
Message-ID: <185e07a3631df6a05404b7e4412ab003@efn.org>

fyi

Begin forwarded message:

> From: Jack Stevens <jkstevens1 at juno.com>
> Date: June 27, 2008 3:51:23 PM PDT
> To: uuce-share at lists.uueugene.org, uuce-chat at lists.uueugene.org
> Subject: [UUCE-Share] LAMP
> Reply-To: "Sharing of Joys, Sorrows, Milestones  and Dreams"  
> <uuce-share at uueugene.org>
>
> At a training session for volunteers at River Bend, the term LAMP came
> up.
>
> It was new to all of us.
>
> It is for deaf and hearing impaired people and stands for Look At Me
> Please.
>
> There is a symbol of a lamp such as Alladin might have used.
>
> Evidently, it will become a universal symbol.
> ____________________________________________________________
> Fabulous Spa Getaway!
> Enter for your chance to WIN great beauty prizes everyday!
> http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/ 
> JKFkuJi7UrqHHZ7aM1W22CN3qoVHxQr2Msacg3aUA6DicLAiL8Er6I/
> _______________________________________________
> UUCE-Share mailing list
> UUCE-Share at uueugene.org
> http://www.uueugene.org/mailman/listinfo/uuce-share
>
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From maryotten at earthlink.net  Sun Jun 29 14:56:41 2008
From: maryotten at earthlink.net (Mary Otten)
Date: Sun, 29 Jun 2008 12:56:41 -0700
Subject: [Access] excellent service
Message-ID: <E1KD30t-0003BW-4f@elasmtp-spurfowl.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

Kudos to the folks who participated in this morning's worship service
with their personal reflections, music and anchoring. 

Mary


From webmaster at uueugene.org  Sun Jun 29 15:57:13 2008
From: webmaster at uueugene.org (UUCE Webmaster)
Date: Sun, 29 Jun 2008 13:57:13 -0700
Subject: [Access] excellent service
In-Reply-To: <E1KD30t-0003BW-4f@elasmtp-spurfowl.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
References: <E1KD30t-0003BW-4f@elasmtp-spurfowl.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <22ACA66F-E912-4F52-8C40-466B38A2B45F@uueugene.org>

I second that. I REALLY really liked the tone, the topic, and the  
several things I took away.
Martha
butting in


> Kudos to the folks who participated in this morning's worship service
> with their personal reflections, music and anchoring.
> Mary
>

From leslie_gilbert at msn.com  Sun Jun 29 16:08:38 2008
From: leslie_gilbert at msn.com (leslie gilbert)
Date: Sun, 29 Jun 2008 14:08:38 -0700
Subject: [Access] excellent service
In-Reply-To: <E1KD30t-0003BW-4f@elasmtp-spurfowl.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
References: <E1KD30t-0003BW-4f@elasmtp-spurfowl.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <BAY126-W16D00B778216E9070959D5E39C0@phx.gbl>


I thought it went really well too! Thanks for the opportunity and for everyone's hard work!
 
Leslie> From: maryotten at earthlink.net> To: access at uueugene.org> Date: Sun, 29 Jun 2008 12:56:41 -0700> Subject: [Access] excellent service> > Kudos to the folks who participated in this morning's worship service> with their personal reflections, music and anchoring. > > Mary> > _______________________________________________> Access mailing list> Access at uueugene.org> http://www.uueugene.org> http://www.uueugene.org/mailman/listinfo/access
_________________________________________________________________
The i?m Talkathon starts 6/24/08.? For now, give amongst yourselves.
http://www.imtalkathon.com?source=TXT_EML_WLH_LearnMore_GiveAmongst
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From algaelady at gmail.com  Sun Jun 29 16:40:19 2008
From: algaelady at gmail.com (jeannemarie moore)
Date: Sun, 29 Jun 2008 14:40:19 -0700
Subject: [Access] excellent service
In-Reply-To: <E1KD30t-0003BW-4f@elasmtp-spurfowl.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
References: <E1KD30t-0003BW-4f@elasmtp-spurfowl.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <004801c8da30$bb207110$6401a8c0@TheMachine>

Hi all,

Thanks for the positive feedback... it was a risk, and I'm not sure I
handled the stress of it very well.
I do hope people come to their senses and accept Sandy Mann, who has
apparently offered many times, to do piano because she's talented.

j-m.

 

-----Original Message-----
From: access-bounces at uueugene.org [mailto:access-bounces at uueugene.org] On
Behalf Of Mary Otten
Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2008 12:57 PM
To: access at uueugene.org
Subject: [Access] excellent service

Kudos to the folks who participated in this morning's worship service with
their personal reflections, music and anchoring. 

Mary

_______________________________________________
Access mailing list
Access at uueugene.org
http://www.uueugene.org
http://www.uueugene.org/mailman/listinfo/access


From mariah at efn.org  Sun Jun 29 17:28:32 2008
From: mariah at efn.org (mariah at efn.org)
Date: Sun, 29 Jun 2008 15:28:32 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Access] excellent service
In-Reply-To: <22ACA66F-E912-4F52-8C40-466B38A2B45F@uueugene.org>
References: <E1KD30t-0003BW-4f@elasmtp-spurfowl.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
	<22ACA66F-E912-4F52-8C40-466B38A2B45F@uueugene.org>
Message-ID: <18877.140.211.82.5.1214778512.squirrel@webmail.efn.org>

You can butt in any time you want with praise like that!!!  This crew
worked Very hard to accomplish what they did.  Aren't they awesome?  dm

On Sun, June 29, 2008 1:57 pm, UUCE Webmaster wrote:
> I second that. I REALLY really liked the tone, the topic, and the
> several things I took away. Martha
> butting in
>
>
>> Kudos to the folks who participated in this morning's worship service
>> with their personal reflections, music and anchoring. Mary
>>
>>
> _______________________________________________
> Access mailing list
> Access at uueugene.org
> http://www.uueugene.org
> http://www.uueugene.org/mailman/listinfo/access
>
>



From ruthken at pacinfo.com  Sun Jun 29 17:35:32 2008
From: ruthken at pacinfo.com (Ken Ross)
Date: Sun, 29 Jun 2008 15:35:32 -0700
Subject: [Access] excellent service
In-Reply-To: <18877.140.211.82.5.1214778512.squirrel@webmail.efn.org>
References: <E1KD30t-0003BW-4f@elasmtp-spurfowl.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
	<22ACA66F-E912-4F52-8C40-466B38A2B45F@uueugene.org>
	<18877.140.211.82.5.1214778512.squirrel@webmail.efn.org>
Message-ID: <p0624086bc48dbe41b350@[10.0.1.3]>

I have nothing to add, because I agree with what everyone else has 
said.  It was really good and really worthwhile, meaning educational. 
Now if I can just remember all the tips.  Fortunately, if I forget 
I'm sure my pal Jeanne-Marie will help me remember.  :-)   Ken

>You can butt in any time you want with praise like that!!!  This crew
>worked Very hard to accomplish what they did.  Aren't they awesome?  dm
>
>On Sun, June 29, 2008 1:57 pm, UUCE Webmaster wrote:
>>  I second that. I REALLY really liked the tone, the topic, and the
>>  several things I took away. Martha
>>  butting in
>>
>>
>>>  Kudos to the folks who participated in this morning's worship service
>>>  with their personal reflections, music and anchoring. Mary
>>>
>>>
>>  _______________________________________________
>>  Access mailing list
>>  Access at uueugene.org
>>  http://www.uueugene.org
>>  http://www.uueugene.org/mailman/listinfo/access
>>
>>
>
>
>_______________________________________________
>Access mailing list
>Access at uueugene.org
>http://www.uueugene.org
>http://www.uueugene.org/mailman/listinfo/access


-- 
****************************************************
Ken Ross
ruthken at pacinfo.com
home phone:  541-686-1549
*******************************************************

From ruthken at pacinfo.com  Sun Jun 29 17:51:51 2008
From: ruthken at pacinfo.com (uuRuth Ross)
Date: Sun, 29 Jun 2008 15:51:51 -0700
Subject: [Access] excellent service
In-Reply-To: <18877.140.211.82.5.1214778512.squirrel@webmail.efn.org>
References: <E1KD30t-0003BW-4f@elasmtp-spurfowl.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
	<22ACA66F-E912-4F52-8C40-466B38A2B45F@uueugene.org>
	<18877.140.211.82.5.1214778512.squirrel@webmail.efn.org>
Message-ID: <095E044A-FA6E-4969-BB61-DC95417E4775@pacinfo.com>

Yes, yes, yes--you all were awesome!

Ruth

On Jun 29, 2008 , at 15:28, mariah at efn.org wrote:

> You can butt in any time you want with praise like that!!!  This crew
> worked Very hard to accomplish what they did.  Aren't they  
> awesome?  dm
>
> On Sun, June 29, 2008 1:57 pm, UUCE Webmaster wrote:
>> I second that. I REALLY really liked the tone, the topic, and the
>> several things I took away. Martha
>> butting in
>>
>>
>>> Kudos to the folks who participated in this morning's worship  
>>> service
>>> with their personal reflections, music and anchoring. Mary
>>>
>>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Access mailing list
>> Access at uueugene.org
>> http://www.uueugene.org
>> http://www.uueugene.org/mailman/listinfo/access
>>
>>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Access mailing list
> Access at uueugene.org
> http://www.uueugene.org
> http://www.uueugene.org/mailman/listinfo/access


From lucindap at comcast.net  Sun Jun 29 18:19:03 2008
From: lucindap at comcast.net (Cindy Pitcairn)
Date: Sun, 29 Jun 2008 16:19:03 -0700
Subject: [Access] excellent service
In-Reply-To: <095E044A-FA6E-4969-BB61-DC95417E4775@pacinfo.com>
References: <E1KD30t-0003BW-4f@elasmtp-spurfowl.atl.sa.earthlink.net>	<22ACA66F-E912-4F52-8C40-466B38A2B45F@uueugene.org>	<18877.140.211.82.5.1214778512.squirrel@webmail.efn.org>
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From maryotten at earthlink.net  Sun Jun 29 18:31:34 2008
From: maryotten at earthlink.net (Mary Otten)
Date: Sun, 29 Jun 2008 16:31:34 -0700
Subject: [Access] excellent service
In-Reply-To: <48681867.9080104@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <E1KD6Mq-0004ga-MT@elasmtp-kukur.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

Hi Cindy,
It was certainly hot; I was lucky to be pretty near a fan! I hope your
van has gotten fixed by now.

mary


From mariah at efn.org  Sun Jun 29 18:36:52 2008
From: mariah at efn.org (d. maria)
Date: Sun, 29 Jun 2008 16:36:52 -0700
Subject: [Access] excellent service
In-Reply-To: <48681867.9080104@comcast.net>
References: <E1KD30t-0003BW-4f@elasmtp-spurfowl.atl.sa.earthlink.net>	<22ACA66F-E912-4F52-8C40-466B38A2B45F@uueugene.org>	<18877.140.211.82.5.1214778512.squirrel@webmail.efn.org>
	<095E044A-FA6E-4969-BB61-DC95417E4775@pacinfo.com>
	<48681867.9080104@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <828392233a2478051d163e4fea8b1e1c@efn.org>

you bet.  They done us all proud!  Ruth has her iPod recording and 
Elliot did a tape.  You have to listen!  dm

On Jun 29, 2008, at 4:19 PM, Cindy Pitcairn wrote:

>  And darn ! I missed it all. When there was a heat advisory for the 
> elderly and people with chronic illnesses, I thought I'd better take 
> it seriously because I qualify on both accounts. And ponce I opened my 
> front door this morning, I knew I'd never make it. I hope it's been 
> caught on tape and I can at least look forward to hearing it.
>
>  Regretfully, Cindy
>
>
>  uuRuth Ross wrote:Yes, yes, yes--you all were awesome!
>>
>> Ruth
>>
>> On Jun 29, 2008 , at 15:28, mariah at efn.org wrote:
>>
>>
>>> You can butt in any time you want with praise like that!!!  This crew
>>> worked Very hard to accomplish what they did.  Aren't they
>>> awesome?  dm
>>>
>>> On Sun, June 29, 2008 1:57 pm, UUCE Webmaster wrote:
>>>
>>>> I second that. I REALLY really liked the tone, the topic, and the
>>>> several things I took away. Martha
>>>> butting in
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Kudos to the folks who participated in this morning's worship
>>>>> service
>>>>> with their personal reflections, music and anchoring. Mary
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> Access mailing list
>>>> Access at uueugene.org
>>>> http://www.uueugene.org
>>>> http://www.uueugene.org/mailman/listinfo/access
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Access mailing list
>>> Access at uueugene.org
>>> http://www.uueugene.org
>>> http://www.uueugene.org/mailman/listinfo/access
>>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Access mailing list
>> Access at uueugene.org
>> http://www.uueugene.org
>> http://www.uueugene.org/mailman/listinfo/access
>>
>>
>
> _______________________________________________
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From algaelady at gmail.com  Sun Jun 29 22:21:36 2008
From: algaelady at gmail.com (jeannemarie moore)
Date: Sun, 29 Jun 2008 20:21:36 -0700
Subject: [Access] excellent service
In-Reply-To: <18877.140.211.82.5.1214778512.squirrel@webmail.efn.org>
References: <E1KD30t-0003BW-4f@elasmtp-spurfowl.atl.sa.earthlink.net><22ACA66F-E912-4F52-8C40-466B38A2B45F@uueugene.org>
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Message-ID: <001d01c8da60$6e5e0470$6401a8c0@TheMachine>

Hey all,
I think positive feedback is not butting in, and, Maria, you are part of the
"they" so do take it in!
j-m.

 

-----Original Message-----
From: access-bounces at uueugene.org [mailto:access-bounces at uueugene.org] On
Behalf Of mariah at efn.org
Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2008 3:29 PM
To: Access Issues and Discussion
Cc: Access Issues and Discussion
Subject: Re: [Access] excellent service

You can butt in any time you want with praise like that!!!  This crew worked
Very hard to accomplish what they did.  Aren't they awesome?  dm

On Sun, June 29, 2008 1:57 pm, UUCE Webmaster wrote:
> I second that. I REALLY really liked the tone, the topic, and the 
> several things I took away. Martha butting in
>
>
>> Kudos to the folks who participated in this morning's worship service 
>> with their personal reflections, music and anchoring. Mary
>>
>>
> _______________________________________________
> Access mailing list
> Access at uueugene.org
> http://www.uueugene.org
> http://www.uueugene.org/mailman/listinfo/access
>
>


_______________________________________________
Access mailing list
Access at uueugene.org
http://www.uueugene.org
http://www.uueugene.org/mailman/listinfo/access


From algaelady at gmail.com  Sun Jun 29 22:24:36 2008
From: algaelady at gmail.com (jeannemarie moore)
Date: Sun, 29 Jun 2008 20:24:36 -0700
Subject: [Access] excellent service
In-Reply-To: <48681867.9080104@comcast.net>
References: <E1KD30t-0003BW-4f@elasmtp-spurfowl.atl.sa.earthlink.net>	<22ACA66F-E912-4F52-8C40-466B38A2B45F@uueugene.org>	<18877.140.211.82.5.1214778512.squirrel@webmail.efn.org><095E044A-FA6E-4969-BB61-DC95417E4775@pacinfo.com>
	<48681867.9080104@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <001f01c8da60$d30d7810$6401a8c0@TheMachine>

Oh Cindy, it was so hot at church that I thought I was going to MELT!  There
is absolutely no fan in front and I just REALLY wish I felt comfortable
having bare arms in public!
(an Eastern Guru thing, I guess... it's not considered modelt... and it
stays with me...)
Is your van fixed yet?
j-m.
 
 


  _____  

From: access-bounces at uueugene.org [mailto:access-bounces at uueugene.org] On
Behalf Of Cindy Pitcairn
Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2008 4:19 PM
To: Access Issues and Discussion
Subject: Re: [Access] excellent service


And darn ! I missed it all. When there was a heat advisory for the elderly
and people with chronic illnesses, I thought I'd better take it seriously
because I qualify on both accounts. And ponce I opened my front door this
morning, I knew I'd never make it. I hope it's been caught on tape and I can
at least look forward to hearing it.

Regretfully, Cindy


uuRuth Ross wrote: 

Yes, yes, yes--you all were awesome!



Ruth



On Jun 29, 2008 , at 15:28, mariah at efn.org wrote:



  

You can butt in any time you want with praise like that!!!  This crew

worked Very hard to accomplish what they did.  Aren't they  

awesome?  dm



On Sun, June 29, 2008 1:57 pm, UUCE Webmaster wrote:

    

I second that. I REALLY really liked the tone, the topic, and the

several things I took away. Martha

butting in





      

Kudos to the folks who participated in this morning's worship  

service

with their personal reflections, music and anchoring. Mary





        

_______________________________________________

Access mailing list

Access at uueugene.org

http://www.uueugene.org

http://www.uueugene.org/mailman/listinfo/access





      

_______________________________________________

Access mailing list

Access at uueugene.org

http://www.uueugene.org

http://www.uueugene.org/mailman/listinfo/access

    



_______________________________________________

Access mailing list

Access at uueugene.org

http://www.uueugene.org

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From davidgil at comcast.net  Mon Jun 30 01:47:27 2008
From: davidgil at comcast.net (David Gilmartin)
Date: Sun, 29 Jun 2008 23:47:27 -0700
Subject: [Access] Minutes of the June Accessibility Committee meeting
In-Reply-To: <4834A32B.1060502@comcast.net>
References: <4834A32B.1060502@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <BA588BB6-D3EE-4CF9-BCBA-37412022EE0E@comcast.net>

Just looking for minutes from our June meeting. Am I supposed to do  
them? Can't remember.

David Gilmartin

From maryotten at earthlink.net  Mon Jun 30 09:57:57 2008
From: maryotten at earthlink.net (Mary Otten)
Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2008 07:57:57 -0700
Subject: [Access] Minutes of the June Accessibility Committee meeting
In-Reply-To: <BA588BB6-D3EE-4CF9-BCBA-37412022EE0E@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <E1KDKpL-00041O-Tv@elasmtp-spurfowl.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

No, I am suppose to do them.  More proof that they need to be done the
night of the meeting when one gets home; or at least, that is how it
needs to work for me. They will be forthcoming today.

mary