[Access] notes from the Co-ordinating council meeting

[d. maria]

I just want to make note of how thoroughly Mary expressed our concerns 
without using a hammer.  She said no one should feel guilty... which a 
few thought amusing, at least I think they did, because they laughed... 
maybe that was just because they like to feel guilty, or maybe because 
they think UU's can't help themselves.  Anyway, Mary put everyone at 
ease and I was impressed with how comfortable everyone seemed to be 
with the topic and was thinking of more ideas... or I assumed they were 
as they were making lots of notes.  I did not sense any resistance, 
just a desire to do it well.  I, of course, had to jump in with my way 
of putting something that Mary had already said quite well... If I sit 
next to you next time, Mary, will you kick me?  Joy says I always have 
to have the last word.  I'm working on that even though I don't think 
that's true.  Has everyone seen the handles on the Sanctuary doors, on 
the Inside???  One can now pull the doors closed from the inside.  YEA! 
   dm
On Jan 12, 2008, at 1:18 PM, Lucinda Pitcairn wrote:

> Mary,
>
> Thanks so much for your notes. I'm glad you were able to get there. 
> I'll
> get in touch with Sue about the auction set-up when I get a chance. It
> won't be hard to give her ADA numbers--much harder just to get out from
> under the tasks at hand!  Cindy
>
> Mary Otten wrote:
>> Hi folks,
>> i attended that meeting this morning, as did Mariah.   There is
>> definite interest in our check-list, including some specific numbers
>> that will ensure that power wheel-chairs can be accommodated. It was
>> mentioned that having somebody who uses a wheel-chair go on site 
>> visits
>> is a good idea, but there are ADA numbers as well, so I think it would
>> be good to get specific on the check list and include such numbers,
>> e.g. as pertains to bath-room access and meeting set up, aisles, row
>> spacing etc.  Sue Craig mentioned her concern specificaly with regard
>> to the upcoming service auction. she wants to make sure that they set
>> things up so that folks who use power chairs will be able to move
>> around. Since I doubt the check list will be finalized by the time of
>> the auction, it might be a nice idea if Cindy and Sue could get
>> together via e-mail or telephone or whatever to discuss that aspect of
>> things specifically as they relate to this event.  There is also
>> interest in having our check-list put together with Candee-s list 
>> about
>> how to get child care, since lack of child care is also an
>> accessibility barrier, albeit of a different sort than what we deal
>> with directly.
>>
>> At the meeting, there was discussion about the committee clusters 
>> idea,
>> and there was talk of putting us into the social justice cluster.
>> further work is going to be done on this whole topic; a
>> subcommittee./task force has been formed to do that work.  I can't
>> recall who volunteered for it, but I know Ken and Mariah are on this
>> list, and I'm sure one or both of them will be able to fill in. So if
>> anyone has definite ideas about this topic, contact one of the members
>> of that subcommittee and make your wishes known. I know one of the
>> folks is Sarah Hendrickson.
>>
>> We also talked about the issue of when its preferable to hold a 
>> meeting
>> at church and when off site is ok, and I made the points that we
>> discussed at our last meeting, emphasizing that we were not trying to
>> dump guilt trips on people, but that we did expect that meetings where
>> anybody might be expected to come should be held at church, and that
>> off site locations of such meetings should be chosen with 
>> accessibility
>> in mind. and there was some discussion as to just what that meant. I
>> hope I got the idea across that the bottom line is that, a: we
>> recognize that its not always going to be possible to hold all open
>> meetings at church; b: its not always going to be possible to have off
>> site locations be 100% comfortably accessible; but c: it is essential
>> that we try to make that happen, and that people know that the best
>> effort was made to make it so. Its a lot easier to take "no" for an
>> answer if you really feel like best efforts were expended.
>>
>> If Ken or Mariah want to add anythingh to my summary of acces-related
>> CC topics, please feel free to speak up.
>>
>> mary
>>
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