[Access] Minutes for Nov. 6th meeting
Lucinda Pitcairn
lucindap at comcast.net
Wed Nov 28 15:56:04 CST 2007
maria, Thanks. I'll make that change. C.
d. maria wrote:
> Cindy, a small correction to the minutes: I believe i said (or meant
> to say) that Nisco was the person who scheduled and trained greeters &
> ushers, and PROBABLY would be delighted to have disabled people as
> greeters. thnx,,, don't want Nisco thinking I'm speaking for her. The
> rest of the minutes match my memory and look good to me. Thanks for
> doing them. dm
>
> On Nov 24, 2007, at 5:36 PM, Ken Ross wrote:
>
> Folks,
>
> These are excellent minutes (aka Notes). I was just looking at
> our website and I don't see any minutes there. I remind you that
> Martha Osgood indicated that she wouldn't put any up until someone
> specifically asked her to.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Ken
>
> Below, at last, are the "minutes" for our meeting, with thanks
> to David for his notes on the last bit. Please let me know of
> any oversights, mistakes, etc. Cindy
> Notes from the Accessibility Group Meeting
> Tuesday, November 6, 2007
> Present : d. maria, Leslie Gilbert, David Gilmartin,
> Jeanne-Marie Moore, Mary Otten, Cindy Pitcairn, Ken Ross
> Candle-lighting and words by David Gilmartin were followed by
> brief check-ins.
> The minutes of the previous meeting were approved.
> Liaison with Facilities Council. Ken Ross introduced himself
> as the liaison member with the Facilities Council (FC) and
> presented a list of items the FC has completed, is in the
> process of doing, or plans to do in the future in response to
> accessibility concerns. Already completed are the new concrete
> pathway to the lower level, the installation of an
> ADA-compliant toilet in one of the lower level bathrooms, a
> storage box for Braille hymnals, and two new restricted
> parking spaces. In process is the installation of a new
> ADA-compliant toilet in a one of the bathrooms on the upper
> level. Ken asked for further explanation of how recessed door
> hinges work and said the FC would look into installing them.
> Some discussion ensued concerning the lighting of the pathway
> at night and it was agreed that it is the upper part of the
> path that needs lights. The FC will look into the possibility
> of a solar light on a post. After discussing ways to make it
> possible for a wheelchair to gain access to the parking lot
> for loading onto a van after a service (when no curbside space
> is available for a van to pull into), it was decided that
> Leslie Gilbert and Ken Ross would meet separately to find a
> solution to this problem, if possible.
> Committee Proposal. Cindy Pitcairn reported that the latest
> version of a proposal for an Accessibility Committee would be
> considered by the UUCE Board at its November 8th meeting and
> approval seemed likely.
> Installation Ceremony. Jeanne-Marie Moore has contacted Rev.
> Steve Landale to ascertain that he prefers First Christian
> Church for his installation ceremony, and Mary Otten has
> contacted Suzanne Whaley, head of the Installation Task Force,
> concerning input from our committee. As a result, Leslie
> Gilbert and Cindy Pitcairn joined the task force on October
> 25th for a tour of First Christian Church. Although the church
> presents a variety of accessibility challenges, advanced
> planning and communications can alleviate most of them. A
> report on the visit by Cindy Pitcairn is appended. Mary will
> contact Suzanne about our concerns and suggestions.
> Communications. Mary Otten has contacted our webster, Martha
> Osgood, concerning an access-listserv once we are a committee
> and have sufficient subscribers (8-10). Cindy Pitcairn
> reported she had contacted Martha on the establishment of a
> committee web page, to include accessibility tips and other
> educational material. Those present supported having a place
> on the UUCE website for accessibility information. David
> Gilmartin suggested exploring whether it would make sense for
> it to be combined with stuff from Welcoming Congregations
> (Interweave), Membership, or other committees.
> Interaction with Other Committees. d. maria said Nisco
> Junkins, Membership, would like to see people with
> disabilities as greeters at Sunday services. Jeanne-Marie
> Moore felt strongly that the Shared Values Task Force of the
> Building Project Oversight Committee was an important group
> through which to influence the future of the church, and that
> she planned to become involved there.
>
> Accessibility Representation at UUA. David Gilmartin and Mary
> Otten reported that Arthur Tackman and CJ McGregor,
> representing people with disabilities, were added to the
> Journey Toward Wholeness Transformation Committee by the UUA
> Board of Trustees. In response to many expressed concerns, the
> Board, later next year, according to Tom Loughrey, PSWD
> Trustee, "will be inviting leadership of this committee to
> meet with us to discuss specifically how the committee is
> handling issues of accessibility as part of its new charge."In
> view of time constraints, the remaining agenda item of
> discussing committee objectives and tasks for the coming year
> was postponed until the next meeting, Tuesday, December 4th,
> at 7:00 pm in the sanctuary.
> The meeting adjourned.
> /Cindy Pitcairn, scribe/
> lucindap at comcast.net
>
>
> ADDENDUM: Report on Installation Task Force Field Trip, First
> Christian Church, October 25, 2007
> Attending: Suzanne Whaley, Rachel Cummings, Julia Knowles,
> Bonnie Romane, Leslie Gilbert, Cindy Pitcairn
> The Installation service for Rev. Steve Landale as minister of
> UUCE is scheduled for 4 pm on January 27, 2008 at the First
> Christian Church, 1166 Oak Street, Eugene. This is an older
> church and presents several challenges in regard to
> accessibility.
> The major accessibility problem lies in getting into the
> sanctuary, which is above street level. There is a wide set of
> stairs facing Oak and leading into the sanctuary for the
> able-bodied. Electric wheelchairs will need to go up the ramp
> into the more modern administrative building attached to the
> sanctuary. The door at the top of the ramp will need to be
> unlocked. Once inside this building, there is a/ very long,
> narrow/ passageway, with some turns, into the sanctuary. Signs
> and guides to indicate the way to the sanctuary will help.
> The ramp is too steep for easy access by manual wheelchair.
> Those using manual wheelchairs, as well as those with walkers,
> canes, crutches, weak knees or hips, or unsteady on their
> feet, should use the very small elevator located on the north
> side of the sanctuary building. The door to this entrance will
> need to be unlocked. This elevator holds no more than three
> standing people. It will not hold electric wheelchairs. (In my
> opinion, anyone using the elevator should have another person
> accompany them for safety's sake and moral support in case of
> elevator failure.)Near the elevator there is another flight of
> inside steps.
> Maps, signs, advance publicity, and on-site guides would all
> help people find the appropriate entrance.
> The sanctuary has adequate space, segregated into two areas,
> for the number of wheelchairs used in our congregation.
> (Whether there is adequate seating for all who might attend
> the service is another question.)
> The sanctuary has a certain old-fashioned charm to it and a
> distinctly Christian feel, with a cross and stained glass
> windows. However, it also has a large peace flag and with
> emblems of our own, perhaps our banner, it will feel more UU.
> Men's and women's bathrooms are located in a narrow hall
> adjacent to the sanctuary. They each have a
> handicap-accessible stall. The bathrooms are small and
> probably can accomodate no more than two or three at a time
> (still, better than the situation at UUCE).
> There is a raised platform along one side of the sanctuary
> where tea and coffee and hand-held food can be served for the
> reception after the service. People can either mingle in the
> crowd on the refreshment dais or sit in the pews to enjoy
> their refreshments, but this would not provide a very sociable
> set-up for a reception. There is a large social hall in the
> basement, but the only access to it will be by stairs or the
> very small elevator. Those in electric wheelchairs will not be
> able to attend a reception there.
> There are advantages to the use of this church for the
> installation. It is in a central location in downtown Eugene.
> Parking behind the church and in adjacent lots should be
> adequate. The minister of the church, Dan Bryant, is an
> outstanding religious leader in Eugene and association of our
> church with his on this occasion, however tenuous, strikes a
> positive note.
> However, from an accessibility point of view, with its
> confusing layout, it will present distinct challenges.
> Information disseminated in advance, guides, signs, and
> arrangements for all doors to be unlocked at the time of the
> service, will obviate many of the problems, but there are
> likely to be some frustrations for some attending.
>
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