[Access] Ken Ross needs your input

[Ken Ross]

Thanks.  It's the west restroom which is furthest from the front door.  Ken

At 11:04 -0800 12/10/07, Ann Fuller wrote:
>Hello, All,
>
>I'll look at the proposed re-position of the TP holder and get back 
>to you. We're talking about the lavatory nearest to the front door. 
>Is that correct?
>
>Ann
>
>On Dec 9, 2007 5:26 PM, George Koris 
><<mailto:gkoris at comcast.net>gkoris at comcast.net> wrote:
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>FYI, Dirk donated the bars maybe six or seven years ago--perhaps a 
>bit more--and I installed them at that time.
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>Peace be to you,
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><mailto:gkoris at comcast.net>George Koris
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: <mailto:ruthken at pacinfo.com>Ken Ross
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>Sent: Sunday, December 09, 2007 4:26 PM
>Subject: Ken Ross needs your input
>
>Accessibility and Facilities Friends,
>
>I received the following request:
>
>5 December 2007 
>     Re: Bathroom, west, main floor
>     I bought and gave to the church   2 "grab bars for the west 
>bathroom.  The "grab bars" are installed.  I am a user.  With a 
>request.  The Newsletter indicates that changes have been made, and 
>are being made, to the bathrooms, so I make this request:  place the 
>toilet paper holder so that the paper holder does not restrict the 
>use of the grab bars.   In the present position, the toilet paper 
>holder blocks certain positions of the arm, in the use of the grab 
>bars.  The placement of the paper holder in its present position can 
>block the arm and defeat the purpose of the grab bars.
>     Dirk P. Ten Brinke
>
>The restroom in question is not the one with the new ADA-compliant 
>toilet.  In case you don't know, Dirk is an elderly long-time member 
>of the church, sings in the choir, and uses a cane/walking stick.  I 
>saw no good solution, but I figured the only possible solution was 
>to move the "toilet paper holder" (TP holder) about six inches to 
>the left of its present location.  In further communication with 
>Dirk, he objected because
>
>   the holder should be well forward of the shoulder; 
>(I don't know anyone with hands coming out of the shoulder, as  the 
>position of many holders seems to suggest.  Lots of toilet paper 
>holders are in a dumb positions in terms of function.)
>
>Then he gave me his proposal: move the "toilet paper holder" to the 
>right beyond the higher grab bar.  I checked this idea out this 
>morning.  I would be able to reach it that far forward, but it would 
>be a stretch.  Would some of you be able to check whether that 
>change would make things worse for other users?
>
>Ken
>
>PS:  I don't think this is an urgent item.  Dirk indicated that he 
>had donated the grab bars.  When I asked him who installed them, he 
>responded that he didn't remember but that it "might have been 
>before your time."  Ruth and I started coming in 1987 and joined in 
>1989.  Nevertheless, I want to give Dirk's request a fair hearing.
>--
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>Ken Ross
><mailto:ruthken at pacinfo.com>ruthken at pacinfo.com
>home phone:  541-686-1549
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