[Access] Ken Ross needs your input

[George Koris]

Ken Ross needs your inputFYI, Dirk donated the bars maybe six or seven years ago--perhaps a bit more--and I installed them at that time.




Peace be to you,

 

George Koris

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  From: Ken Ross 
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  Sent: Sunday, December 09, 2007 4:26 PM
  Subject: Ken Ross needs your input


  Accessibility and Facilities Friends,


  I received the following request:


  5 December 2007 
      Re: Bathroom, west, main floor
      I bought and gave to the church   2 "grab bars for the west bathroom.  The "grab bars" are installed.  I am a user.  With a request.  The Newsletter indicates that changes have been made, and are being made, to the bathrooms, so I make this request:  place the toilet paper holder so that the paper holder does not restrict the use of the grab bars.   In the present position, the toilet paper holder blocks certain positions of the arm, in the use of the grab bars.  The placement of the paper holder in its present position can block the arm and defeat the purpose of the grab bars.
      Dirk P. Ten Brinke


  The restroom in question is not the one with the new ADA-compliant toilet.  In case you don't know, Dirk is an elderly long-time member of the church, sings in the choir, and uses a cane/walking stick.  I saw no good solution, but I figured the only possible solution was to move the "toilet paper holder" (TP holder) about six inches to the left of its present location.  In further communication with Dirk, he objected because


    the holder should be well forward of the shoulder; 
  (I don't know anyone with hands coming out of the shoulder, as  the position of many holders seems to suggest.  Lots of toilet paper holders are in a dumb positions in terms of function.)


  Then he gave me his proposal: move the "toilet paper holder" to the right beyond the higher grab bar.  I checked this idea out this morning.  I would be able to reach it that far forward, but it would be a stretch.  Would some of you be able to check whether that change would make things worse for other users?


  Ken


  PS:  I don't think this is an urgent item.  Dirk indicated that he had donated the grab bars.  When I asked him who installed them, he responded that he didn't remember but that it "might have been before your time."  Ruth and I started coming in 1987 and joined in 1989.  Nevertheless, I want to give Dirk's request a fair hearing.
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  Ken Ross
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